I would like to do a piece on my blog, Releasing Religion, regarding mixing God & government.  And I'd like to know what opinions people have here about doing such a thing.  Some points to mention are:

Glenn Beck is well known for arguing that we have misunderstood that founding fathers & their desire to keep church & state separate.  Holding his rally on 8/28, he gathered 150.000 people to hear him talk about bringing out country "back to God".  What do you think it would do to our country to "get back to God"? 

The Tea Party has been called racist Chrisotcrats. In their recent convention, most conference sessions began with prayers.  What do you think of the Tea Party?  Do you know very little about them?  Do you know a lot?  Please share your thoughts here.

The piece will be posted on www.releasingreligion.blogspot.com









Tags: 8/28, Beck, Christocrats, Glenn, Honor, Party, Rally, Restoring, Tea

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Yeah.... Well its no surprise to me. Faith is usually a systemic issue, not limited to just views of the afterlife. This is an incredibly religious country compared to comparable nations abroad, and that religiosity seems to carry over into politics as well. Just like when people say that the US is the "greatest nation on earth" yet when compared to others, the only thing we take first place in is military spending. Healthcare, education, even acceptance of evolutionary theory, we are nowhere near the top; and yet people think we are!
You can't. They don't even know what socialism is. It's just another "ism" they can tag their hate to.
They can deny it until the day the sun goes supernova(which as I understand it will be never), but the simple factor in all of it is racism; pure, simple.
Obama is a symbol of everything white middle class America is afraid of. A successful, black, intellectual type of man that has achieved everything that used to be considered the sole property of the white middle and upper class. The mythology of the American dream is slipping from their fingers and they feel helpless to do anything about it besides react with a morbidly irrational anger.
David,
This racism claim has come up quite a bit. I certainly agree the TP is racist, but again, I do not accept that this has anything to do with the reason for their existence.

What if Obama were a white John Smith? Do you think anything the TP is doing, other than what they are putting on their signs, would be different? I don't.

IMO the TP exists to fight progressive democrats, regardless of their color.
He has some African features, his name is Muslim, he's smart and they can't use the N word.
There is a segment on the Tea Party right this second on MSNBC- The Last Word. You should easily be able to access the clip directly there tomorrow.
Not a big fan of tea, tea is snobby so I drink coffee.
Same here Janelle.

How about a coffee party?
That's great!!
I found out tonight that this Sat and Sun at 8pm CNN will have a show called "Boiling Point" about the Tea Party. I am SO going to watch that. I cannot wait! Hurry up weekend.

I read some articles about the Tea Party and I am coming to the conclusion that there is a lot of religion going on in there. Much more than I realized.

That's disappointing to me.

In sifting through (some) of what we've said thus far, I'd like to better understand the reason the Tea Party hates "Obamacare".

@ Maia - I have a fundy x-friend on my Facebook that I don't talk to lol. I think we are too polite to delete each other lol. We just wish each other happy birthday and not much else which is hilarious when you think that we were best friends for 20 years. I have antoher x-friend and we have the exact same situation but she is just Baptist and not fundy Baptist lol. We have a few more verbal niceities going once in a while other than happy birthday but not much more lol.

Anyway, I look at my fundy friend's Facebook and see that she thinks Obamacare is against her constitutional rights. BTW I don't think she is affiliated with the Tea Party at all since I have not ever seen it mentioned on her FB. At first I had no clue what she could have meant. Then I heard a quick snippet from somewhere something about some people don't think the government should have the right to force an individual to pay for health care. I wonder if that is what she meant?

From what I can understand, their argument is that they earned this money so they should be able to spend it how they choose, not be penalized by being taxed more than everyone else.

@ Maia - Yes, I hear that also. Hey? Don't they tax the hell out of the rich in Great Britain?
Here's the thing I've never gotten about this whole mess, and I heard someone reiterate it tonight on the radio~ why do people think that we aren't entitled medical care on the same level? Because you are poor you should get less adequate treatment than if you are wealthy?
We have a public fire department for the safety of your property, a public school system for the safety of your developing mind, a publicly funded police department for your physical safety, and yet for some fucking reason we should entrust our health to a "for profit" industry?! (not to mention the BILLIONS of dollars they post as profit quarterly) PLEASE SOMEONE EXPLAIN TO ME HOW THAT MAKES SENSE!
We have a public fire department for the safety of your property, a public school system for the safety of your developing mind, a publicly funded police department for your physical safety,

@ Park - Excellent point. I never thought of it that way. I listen to Neal Boortz (Libertarian talk show host) occasionally and he always say "You DO NOT have a right to health care!" I think he says that because it's not in the constitution but I don't think all of that stuff you mentioned is either lol.

I've only been posting on this thread for one day and I'm more confused than ever. That can be a great thing.
it can. confusion often leads to clarity. but that also reiterates my point earlier about libertarians. they are constricted by the limitations of a (really now) ancient document. they didn't even have electricity back then, or a concept of it, let alone a working knowledge of computers. to follow that constitution by the letter is no different than being a fundamentalist christian, believing in the literal translation of the bible. America was founded as a great social experiment, and we need to move forward, not backwards. we know where we've been, and we have found it wanting; we need to move where we haven't, and make it what we want.

btw as far as "mr. Boortz" is concerned, it is my understanding that we have found self evident a right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness~ I would think being able to live a healthy existence might fall under the category of "LIFE"

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