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sorry ladies, but your body isn't really yours

oh, and rape? sorry, but it requires at least 2 or 3 witnesses for it to be valid. Forget that DNA evidence - it doesn't count cuz it isn't in the good book.

so says Ron Hamm, the pastor of the Independent Baptist Church of Wasilla, AK (yes THAT Wasilla)

"...And while I understand that in Alaska the lone female is able to convict her alleged perpetrator, this goes contrary to the Bible. In the book of Deuteronomy we find the following: “One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established.”

"While in our day of feminism it is asserted that a woman’s body is her own. Biblically speaking, this is only true prior to marriage, for in Paul’s first epistle to the Corinthians we read: “Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband. The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.”

http://www.frontiersman.com/articles/2011/07/20/faith/doc4e25134ce5...

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Permalink Reply by Rob van Senten on July 21, 2011 at 2:18am

And if you were married to him it would be your balls you would be punching, if I understand correctly. Wouldn't the whole male owns female bit make sex between a married couple a form of masturbation?

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Permalink Reply by Rob van Senten on July 22, 2011 at 3:25am

I've known a guy that thought that he couldn't rape his wife because they had become one body and blood at the day of marriage.

I puked inside my mouth a little when I heard that.

some actions are wrong even when they're "right".

Owning another person is never right.

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Permalink Reply by Michelle on July 21, 2011 at 1:24am

My husband told me to kick your ass.

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Permalink Reply by booklover on July 21, 2011 at 8:58am

Love your response! :)

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Permalink Reply by Jeff Ramos on July 21, 2011 at 4:53am

Yea, biblical literalists never understand how their ideals, particularly in regards to justice and society in general, just aren't realistic.

It's all just illogical sexist crap.

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Permalink Reply by Pat on July 21, 2011 at 8:31am

Alrighty then! More Bronze/Iron Age, tribal, barbaric wisdom to live by. So I guess the next time I'm in Court and a client is charged with domestic violence, I can use the 'ole Deuteronomy/Corinthians defense. "Screw this noise judge, she's the only witness. Plus, your honor, her broken collar bone, ruptured spleen, and fractured eye socket are his property anyway." Yeah, that's going to fly!!!

Glad to see the Wasilla hillbillies, snake handlers, and witch doctors are finally moving in to the 2nd millennium (BCE).

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Permalink Reply by booklover on July 21, 2011 at 9:00am

WHAT don't people GET about the fact that believing the bible to be the word of 'god' doesn't mean it is???? It's just a HORRIBLE and NOT GOOD book!!! Such idiocy. Blows my mind.

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Permalink Reply by MB on July 21, 2011 at 9:08am

Apart from the obvious one of the things i find most disturbing about his is how normal, professional and generic thepublication looks. How can such evil be disguised with such normalcy.. oh thats right he is a Reverend.

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Permalink Reply by Michelle on July 22, 2011 at 1:56am

With some exceptions, the comments section does reflect better on those that read the article than on the one who wrote it.

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Permalink Reply by Atheist Andrea on July 24, 2011 at 7:32pm

Great headline, LarryL. Do women show for these sermons? They need a serious intervention and a good look in the mirror.

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Permalink Reply by LarryL on July 24, 2011 at 9:03pm

I don't know Andrea, but "Pastor Hamm" sure is getting some serious intervention from the comments to the story. I just picked up this poem someone wrote:

"Jesus loves you, this Ron knows
Your body, ladies, is not your own
You can't tell your husband no
For you are weak and he is strong

Yes, Jesus loves you!
Yes, Jesus loves you!
Yes, Jesus loves you!
Your body's not your own

If your husband stinks a lot
He's still yours an'he's all you've got!
Listen to him huff and roar
Let him do his thing, then hear him snore!

Yes, Jesus loves you!
Yes, Jesus loves you!
Yes, Jesus loves you!
Your body's not your own.

Christian men are exempt from rape
They act on urges like an ape
If you're good you'll shut your mouth
When the marriage starts-to-go south

Yes, Jesus loves you!
Yes, Jesus loves you!
Yes, Jesus loves you!
Your body's not your own."

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Permalink Reply by Patrick Niblock on July 24, 2011 at 11:25pm

I can't believe women actually allow this to happen. Brainwashings one thing. But most people of this planet think they are the only ones who are normal and think correctly. How can group think override your sense of "I'm right everyone else is full of crap" mentality. Especially when it comes to you can't do X because you don't have a penis.