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S.E. Cupp is not an atheist, shes something worse...A CHRISTIAN APOLOGIST!
I watched Bill Maher's REAL TIME last night 5/14 @10pm show last night....and somehow the conversation for close to the first 25 mins or so was actually about atheism and the delusional thinking that is CHRISTINSANITY. Bill Maher, being outgunned....I'd like to say held the fort down but honestly, he should have told the mayor of Newark to stop talking for 5 mins and set the record straight. But since the mayor is a christian, I can't fault him. However, this cunt-bag of a journalist had nerve to suggest that the "liberal media is attacking christianity". Now she's a conservative which in of itself is harmless, however she's a conservative that he gotten TV time, which makes her all the more dangerous in the public sphere of debate. I haven't seen an atheist kiss so much christian ass to sell a book in my life.
You think she would have come to Maher's aid last night, but she did not. She kept saying she did not understand this so called "militant atheism", but she never explained what that meant. And I haven't really seen to many atheists organizing and let's go burn down churches, and ban bibles etc IN PRIVATE LIVES. Just in government, which place it should not be.
But the comments she has made in the past with regard to Obama she has said "Obama delivered another slight to religious America when he became the first president in the history of the United States to mention atheists".
WTF is this??? She's not an atheist, she's emabarassed to be one. What she suggests is the same thing I've been in many documentaries about black struggles for civil rights...which is...KNOW YOUR PLACE. And that's pretty much what she is getting too, in her works. Yeah she does mention that she admires CHRISTIANS conviction, but my biggest problem is that she does not have the strength of her own convictions..and those of us who are fed up with that stay silent bullshit, she's pretty much saying that we should just STFU do not try to change anything and remain obscure and quiet in the background. Meanwhile that it is ok to go ahead and let CHRISTIANS run ramped say whatever mindless garbage that comes out of their mouths and have no counterbalance no matter how wacky or batshit their ideads are.
Atheists or so called atheists like her, are exactly the kind of people that bring us down and hold us back not only in this country but in other parts of the world either.
Tags: arnold, athesit, benedict, cupp, dumbass, ignorant, liar, se, turncoat
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Permalink Reply by Pat Burke on -
If you're a phlogiston chemist I'd like to do a controlled, quasi-peer reviewed phrenology reading on your pate.
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Permalink Reply by Loren Miller on -
But if my pate has a plate as a quirk of fate, how would that rate, mate?
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Permalink Reply by Pat Burke on
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Might throw a wrench into the works...bumpity, bumpity, smoooooth, bumpity, bumpity. Dang. Perhaps it's time for another career re-evaluation. My cousin says he knows of an opening for a "gong farmer", though I'm not sure what that entails.
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Permalink Reply by Stephen Moore on -
Cupp is quite explicit in her atheism, and I have no doubt that she is atheist. She may well want to believe but not be able to do so, but this doesn't make her any less of an atheist. As Dannyisme pointed out, atheism is simply being without belief.
And boo hoo if Cupp does not meet the exalted standards of AtheismTM. At least she is honest about the nature of her non-belief. And I will respect her for her honesty even while lamenting her apologia for theism.
Cupp is a conservative (note the small c). In light of her conservatism I understand, in part, her critique of the atheist movement. I disagree with it, and her accommodation to religion. However, "atheist" does not equal "Liberal-Left-Commie-Pinko-Socialist-Bastard".
Just because her tartan isn't the 'correct' pattern does not mean she is no Scotswoman. If people want to claim she isn't, I'm sure there's some room left in the car if they want to squeeze in.
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Permalink Reply by Pat Burke on
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I have a bridge in Brooklyn you might be interested in purchasing.
Cupp has stated, "I am open to being converted". That is not atheism.
She has said, refering to Obama, "This is a guy who’s very uncomfortable with public worship. He’s always elevating atheism to the level of Christianity and Judaism and Islam, and they’re not the same. They’re apples and oranges."
She doesn't believe atheists warrent the same regard as religionatas.
No atheist would be the font of christian vomitus that this woman spews. (Thought I'd try on a little of the hyperbole she uses in her writing.) And note...it's all christian. No defence of muslims, jews, hindus et al.
On the Maher show she used the expression, "Oh my God!"
In this media-ite interview Cupp defends "praying on big decisions".
And also....
Mediaite: "Do you think Obama meeting with Billy Graham done anything to quell concerns that Christian Americans have?""
Cupp: "No. He’s met with rabbis, he apparently gets private sermons up at Camp David. All of that is fine. Much is private and not for public consumption which is odd in and of itself. The fact of the matter is the president is continually elevating atheism to the status of other faiths when they have nothing to do with one another. He’s constantly trying to preach superiority of science over faith."
She thinks that much of Obama's religion being practiced in private and not in public an oddity. Very strange attitude for an atheist.
And again, she doesn't think atheists deserve as much recognition as believers. She then believes that she, herself, is substandard? I don't care how many times she says it. This woman is not an atheist. Saying it doesn't make it so.
Given your sneering attitude towards atheism, I wonder about you, too.
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Permalink Reply by Dre Smith on -
THANK YOU......I THOUGHT I was the only person who say that line of thinking in her responses. In the sum total she is full of shit.
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Permalink Reply by Stephen Moore on
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Cupp has stated, "I am open to being converted". That is not atheism.
Really? So, in your exalted opinion, an atheist must not consider any evidence in support of a claim for the existence of a deity? And if that evidence be compelling, unambiguous, and irrefutable an atheist must reject and deny the truth of it? Sounds rather closed-minded, dogmatic, and irrational to me.
She has said, refering to Obama, "This is a guy who’s very uncomfortable with public worship. He’s always elevating atheism to the level of Christianity and Judaism and Islam, and they’re not the same. They’re apples and oranges."
If you would be so kind as to deign an explanation of how atheism is the same as theism, you would have my most sincere and humble appreciation.
No atheist would be the font of christian vomitus that this woman spews.
I can't find that regulation in The Atheists' Guide to Etiquette. Though, admittedly, I've not yet had the opportunity to peruse The Incontrovertible Manifesto of the Eighth Special Congress of Atheists. Might one find such a regulation therein?
On the Maher show she used the expression, "Oh my God!"
God forbid anyone use a vernacular exclamation!
In this media-ite interview Cupp defends "praying on big decisions".
No, she doesn't. Cupp is critiquing Matthew's statement.
She thinks that much of Obama's religion being practiced in private and not in public an oddity. Very strange attitude for an atheist.
Given the way religion is used by US politicians (from both sides of the aisle) in courting the electorate, it is an oddity. Cupp is simply making an observation and comment on the behaviour of the President.
And again, she doesn't think atheists deserve as much recognition as believers.
And again, Cupp is a conservative. Please do try not to confuse differences in recognition with differences in respect. They are different concepts. Recognition can differ between classes whilst still maintaining equal respect towards those classes.
I don't care how many times she says it. This woman is not an atheist. Saying it doesn't make it so.
Atheist: someone without a belief in deities.
Cupp: someone without a belief in deities.
Yes, I can see where the confusion arises.
Given your sneering attitude towards atheism, I wonder about you, too.
My sneering attitude is reserved for the Exalted Standards of AtheismTM. Unfortunately, I have this odd idea that atheism has no creed or dogma. Freethought is an affliction I just can't seem to shake.
But don't concern yourself too greatly. I'm sure I'll manage, somehow. Can I still be an atheist? Pretty please?
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Permalink Reply by Pat Burke on
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So, in your exalted opinion, an atheist must not consider any evidence in support of a claim for the existence of a deity? And if that evidence be compelling, unambiguous, and irrefutable an atheist must reject and deny the truth of it?
By all means consider all the evidence they care to manufacture. I think there can be no evidence of the supernatural that is not, itself, of a supernatural agency. That evidence would require further evidence, etc., ad infinitum.
Should a manifestation of any of the proffered deities drop in for coffee, exhibiting any or all of the assigned anthropomorphic characteristics therein, or of a form not imagined to date, that is not evidence of the existence of a deity. It might be evidence, as is postulated in the case of Saul of Tarsus, of a grand mal seizure.
There can be no "truth" to deny. My atheism is the rejection of belief in deities. If you are open to being swayed by evidence, you are agnostic.
If you would be so kind as to deign an explanation of how atheism is the same as theism, you would have my most sincere and humble appreciation.
I didn't say they were the same. She complains that Obama is "elevating atheism to the level of Christianity and Judaism and Islam." She puts religion on a pedestal looking down on lowly atheism. Quite the opposite to my experience, and , I would hope, to any thinking atheist's.
I, and every atheist I know, make a point of not using religious vernacular of the possesive sort. Too bad Maher or Hannity hadn't sneezed.
In this media-ite interview Cupp defends "praying on big decisions".
No, she doesn't. Cupp is critiquing Matthew's statement.
Sorry, but I call, "But I would call it anti-Christian when you say of someone like Sarah Palin or Michael Steele that praying on big decisions is dangerous" as defending the christian position of praying on big decisions.
And again, Cupp is a conservative. Please do try not to confuse differences in recognition with differences in respect. They are different concepts. Recognition can differ between classes whilst still maintaining equal respect towards those classes.
So she could as well say, "the president is continually elevating blacks to the status of whites when they have nothing to do with one another" and that would showing equal respect? Not in my book. And no, I possess neither of your imaginary volumes.
Atheist: someone without a belief in deities.
Cupp: someone who says she is without a belief in deities for now, but exhibits a strong affinity for christianity.
Of course you're right. Atheism has no creed or dogma. Niether does it have the warm fuzzies for christianity.
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Permalink Reply by Loren Miller on
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I like that "I'm not fortunate enough" crap ... like he's kissing up to the Religious Reich that he KNOWS he depends on to keep his minions in power. About as charming as week-old dog poop.
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Permalink Reply by Johannes S. on -
I saw her on Bill Maher as well, and she is DEFINITELY not an Atheist. If she really is an Atheist, she's the dumbest one I've ever seen, anywhere.
She's definitely a Christian, or very near to converting into Christianity. Seriously, a real atheist should get on television and apologise for her, claiming that she is not one of us, since she is clearly a level 2 or 3 agnostic, which is basically Christian.
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Permalink Reply by Dre Smith on
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Being an atheist is not about conforming to dogma, however when you don't even have the balls to defend your own intellectual position, it gives an indication you're really not an ATHEIST. Sorry folks. There has to be a line. Yes I think every honest ATHEIST is open to new evidence should it present itself, however this chick is constantly yearning in the gleam that is CHRISTINSANITY and it's making me see-sick. If you don't have the convicition to deal with your own intellectual honesty, that say what you really are....AN APOLOGETIC AGNOSTIC at best. If it talks like a christian, smells like a christian, RUN because the muslims are going to kill it.
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