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Permalink Reply by SecularCortex13.x on September 25, 2012 at 8:06am bummer.. as if kids don't have enough scatter brain adults acting like children.. and make-believe guilt providing sky daddy pfffft! ha funny story
Permalink Reply by John Aultman on September 25, 2012 at 9:22am Not from my parents but the minister, lay minister, deacons and even some of the parishioners were quick to point out your sins and how it would land you in hell. I remember a Sunday school teacher constantly warning us about the sin of dancing.
Permalink Reply by Nathan LL on September 25, 2012 at 5:49pm No, churchgoing was a serious matter, but my parents were not like this. Punishment was physical with no added religious commentary. I'm just glad you're objective and rational about the whole thing. Be kind and supportive to your brothers. One day tell them what you think -- as long as you're sure they won't "go back and tell" on you.
Permalink Reply by Jerry Wesner on September 25, 2012 at 10:36pm Nathan makes a good point: you may at some time be able to help your brothers develop some perspective in all this. Being both older and a girl gives you a different way of seeing some things. You don't want to risk losing your parents' good graces, but you might be able to say something like "Not everybody thinks what you did is so horrible." Be careful and don't take chances, but if he or another brother really begins to obsess over this sort of thing, you could really be a great help.
Permalink Reply by booklover on September 27, 2012 at 3:30pm Wow. I'm sorry that your parents that say things like that to their children. I'm glad your brothers have you. That is absolutely insane, and actually damaging to a child's mind I would think. Maybe you can have talks with your brothers about your beliefs if you feel that it is safe to do so. If not, then maybe as each one turns 18, if they are not totally brainwashed, you could tell them how you feel. Hell, even if they are brainwashed you could maybe plant a seed of doubt in their minds. Your parents can't tell you and another adult what conversations are allowed to go on between you. Hang in there!
Permalink Reply by Shyanne Gold Orr on November 12, 2012 at 5:27pm Wow that is pretty bad. I don't really get what is so bad about a curse word, it's just a word! Two month long grounding? Way overboard in my opinion. I never had that problem, my dad is agnostic and my family was never religious, but I have heard stories. They are grounding him, so it seem they don't really think he is going to get punished by god if they are punishing him themselves. It is pretty funny that they are threatening him with a sky daddy, kinda like threatening that the monster under the bed is going the kidnap you if you don't eat your veggies! Hope your brothers alright and I agree you should be as supportive of your brothers and of them thinking for themselves since it seems your parents won't be.
Permalink Reply by JP Carey on November 12, 2012 at 11:02pm Ugh, so sorry for the ugly religious "fear of god" speak. That would be the literal child abuse by religion.
I'm sure it's a different dynamic in every household. The way I would handle it is to tell the youngster the truth:
"Swearing happens. It happens and we KNOW it's going on. We EXPECT YOU not to abuse the swear words (or better to not use them at all). People who overdue the swearing are unintelligent and trying to hard to make themselves more noticeable. -You understand that? THAT IS NOT YOU. Our family only uses swear words when they're called for, and technically that's NEVER. But in extreme situations they do come out. So carry on, and DO NOT disappoint us. -you're better than that ok."
Actually I've already had this talk with my girls. Parents are FOOLING themselves (par for the religious) if they think their kids have virgin ears and tongues. The kids must hear swears 10 times a day and all the time. The trick is to convey that there's a proper time and place for it.
Permalink Reply by SecularCortex13.x on November 13, 2012 at 6:27am @ least -i think- yer parents are not this fubar:
“The husband told investigators that Solomon believed her family was going to face hardship from President Barack Obama’s re-election,” CBS News reported.
He is in critical condition at a Scottsdale, Ariz. medical center, while she “was booked on an aggravated assault and domestic violence,” the report said.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/83752.html#ixzz2C6YjR5QD
Permalink Reply by EJN on April 26, 2013 at 10:31am Having been raised in a fundie home I still do not understand why they are so afraid of words. It's like they think if you say the wrong words a door to hell will open beneath you.
Words carry ideas. By making certain words taboo, a group of people can implicitly get a consensus that there exist ideas that are bad to even consider. Usually, the profanity is tied to a specific action or way of identifying people. The religious are not the only ones that exercise thought control by designating a word as profane. Humanist would count racial epithets as a form of profanity. In many instances, the one who uses the prohibited words is viewed as less educated or less sophisticated than those who don't use those words. This view is present regardless of whether or not the observer agrees with the ideas that make these words profane. The last reason listed is the only reason that I have found compelling, in the past, to not use these words. However, as I get older and a little more secure, I find my self caring less about what other people think of me. My language reflects this as well.
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