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Permalink Reply by Tenken on October 30, 2011 at 1:16pm I will come back and read this post later, but will you please provide sources for as many claims as possible? Examples:
It doesn't have to be APA style or anything, just give us a link like this when you reference a significant claim.
Permalink Reply by Tenken on October 30, 2011 at 4:41pm Okay, I've read through the post now. I'm afraid to say this, but I believe there are better rallying calls out there. If you can establish credibility and successfully make your claims that are the foundation for your call to action, you might have success motivating people in real life. No matter where you do this, you are forced to provide some route of action. As Jerry pointed out, you leave us frustrated with no idea how or if we can change anything, no idea how to contribute. It is an argument for a planned economy, and there is a great video about this that I believe does a better job than any essay or article can do for the common person:
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Permalink Reply by Jim DePaulo on November 15, 2011 at 5:27pm And for many on this site, they will live to see 12 billion (by 2060)
Permalink Reply by Jerry Wesner on October 30, 2011 at 3:24pm
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Permalink Reply by Markcincy on October 31, 2011 at 10:47am There's also a lot to be said for consuming less. The real problem isn't that there's too many Indians or Chinese, but that there's too many Americans driving SUV's to their local McDonalds.
Permalink Reply by booklover on November 15, 2011 at 9:06am So true. And it seems so many Americans are unaware that they are taking more than their fair-share of the Earths limited resources.
Permalink Reply by Jedi Wanderer on November 15, 2011 at 9:35am If everyone lived like Americans, we would need 5 Earths to support our population. Clearly our way of life is unsustainable. But as long as our political system remains the way it is, we as Americans are ethically responsible for the pressures we exert on the rest of the world, not just other species but the effect we are having on the rest of humanity. We should be ashamed of ourselves.
Permalink Reply by booklover on November 15, 2011 at 10:13am I totally agree with you Wanderer, I just don't think there are enough bright people who will go along with this. Enough people don't even get the fact that we should be ashamed. Americans seem to have an entitlement attitude.
Permalink Reply by Jedi Wanderer on November 15, 2011 at 10:23am We do indeed, and you are right that there aren't enough bright people to get this fact and many others to do anything about it. We need to change so much of what we are doing, but because of the worst parts of human nature we are wholly prevented from doing so. That is why I think we need to explore different options. Perhaps the best thing we could do is to organize ourselves, those of us who have a clue that is, and form our own communities, run the best way we know how. I think this needs to be done geographically, cooperation online can only get us so far.
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