Oh Hell...

The absurdity of this argument just compels me so much to call it out. It seems that the only thing the threat of hell seems to be saying is that if you don't believe that there is a hell to go to after you die for not believing in hell while you are alive, then you will go to hell. Or, to put it another way, if you don't believe what we believe in, then you will get punished in the way which you don't believe you will get punished in... but you will! Or still more absurdly, believe in what I believe in or you will suffer. How? Well, you'll have to die to find out.

 

It would be giggle-worthy if we didn't actually have to deal with people who think like this and actually threaten us with going to hell for thought-crimes, that is, not believing in the same delusions to which they have fallen prey. Particularly when it comes to children. The thought of threatening children that they will go to an imaginary place for not believing in said imaginary place and for not subscribing to the same fairy tales and fantasies that give rise to such a monstrous place angers me. As if a child could immediately realize the farcicality (I think I just made up a word) of a creator-god who punishes his creations for how he made them.

Views: 128

▶ Reply to This

Replies to This Discussion

Permalink Reply by Joan Denoo on January 18, 2013 at 4:17pm

Yes! "giggle-worthy" is a good word! 

Permalink Reply by Alan Perlman on January 20, 2013 at 1:13pm

Hell is at the center of the mind-fuck called religion.  If you undo the whole religious nutiness, it all starts and ends with hell.

Permalink Reply by booklover on January 20, 2013 at 4:45pm

I've told a few people to go to hell, lol.  To me that is just a saying, not an actual thing.  I love the "free- will" part of religion, but if you don't believe you're going to "hell."  Did they Google "free-will"?

Permalink Reply by Alan Perlman on January 20, 2013 at 8:09pm

"We have to believe in free will. We have no choice." (Can't remember who said it.)

Permalink Reply by Joan Denoo on January 20, 2013 at 7:48pm

Oh my goodness, Melinda, you open a can of worms by looking for what others say about free-will. I guess the quarrel has been going for centuries and it continues. Read one person and it means an individual has the ability make choices from among many alternatives; another will say the body sends out instruction over which one has little control or awareness, they claim there is no such thing as free-will. Another will spout Jung who said our "collective unconscious" determines our choices, not the cognitive brain.
So, set up a dart board, pin up the different options, turn your back to the board, and throw the dart. That is about as close as one can get to an answer.
As for myself, I know there are impulses and instincts in me that influence my action until and unless I get my cognitive brain functioning ... then I make a choice.

Permalink Reply by booklover on January 21, 2013 at 9:20am

Joan, I think using your cognitive thinking and making your own choices is the best description of free- will!

Permalink Reply by Joan Denoo on January 21, 2013 at 12:39pm

Right on!

Permalink Reply by The Flying Atheist on January 21, 2013 at 12:19pm

I know one thing for sure......I can't consciously do anything cognitive until I've had my coffee. 

Permalink Reply by Joan Denoo on January 21, 2013 at 12:40pm

Oh Yes!, with a nice dollop of Agave Nectar and fine cream. 

RSS

Members

Blog Posts

Pope's 'exorcism' caught on film video

Posted by Debra Stevenson on May 21, 2013 at 2:37pm 0 Comments

There is a video of the Pope's 'exorcism' caught on film.  The man isn't demon possessed, there are likely no 'real' demons.  He's just delusional and doesn't want to accept personal responsiblity for his own behavior for his own dysfunctional life.

 

Brandi Amari Williams

Do you support 'traditional' marriage, vot now ad

Posted by Debra Stevenson on May 21, 2013 at 2:28pm 2 Comments

There is an ad that reads ' Do you support 'traditional' marriage? Vote Now"!  .

 

 

No, I don't support 'traditional' marriage because there is no such thing. I support heterosexual and same-sex couples marry each other legally , yes.  'Traditional' marriage promoters largely do not believe that heterosexual women are co-equal to their husbands.  Their only purpose in 'traditional' marriage is to sexually satisfy their husbands if they can and raise children and do all…

Continue

War on Christmas in May

Posted by matthew greenberg on May 21, 2013 at 12:18pm 6 Comments

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/21/texas-merry-christmas-bill_n_3312786.html?utm_hp_ref=politics

i've got no problem with everyone saying "merry christmas" on christmas day.  however, they've turned it into an entire holiday season where it lasts a month or more.  in those situations it should be perfectly acceptable to say "happy holidays" or call it a…

Continue

My first funeral as an atheist

Posted by Two Cult Survivor on May 21, 2013 at 11:30am 0 Comments

I posted the bulk of this on another thread, but wanted to add some context separately.

I finally confronted my faith and embraced the fact of my atheism late last August, 2012. Days after I revealed my "epiphany" to a few friends who knew me from another message board, my sister died from Lou Gehrig's Disease (which pissed her off because she hated catching a disease from someone she never f---ed).

THAT was my sister, understand? She was a beautiful, life-loving, potty-mouthed…

Continue

Events

© 2013   Atheist Nexus. All rights reserved. Admin: Richard Haynes.

Badges  |  Report an Issue  |  Terms of Service