A new organisation is stirring up controversy in Malaysia.
[The Obedient Wives Club] launched on Saturday, says it can cure social ills such as prostitution and divorce by teaching women to be submissive and keep their men happy in the bedroom. "Islam compels us to be obedient to our husband. Whatever he says, I must follow. It is a sin if I don't obey and make him happy," said Ummu.
Just wondering, but is female submission the only thing that makes men happy and keeps societies afloat? You hear this argument again and again all over the world, and the saddest thing is when you hear it coming from women.
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Trust me Meddlesome, I read very well and am much smarter than you.
If you are not ware of the oratorical technique of making a statement in the form of an interrogatory, then you should take a class in remedial debate.
In 2004, Karl Rove set up a "Push Polling" campaign where southern voters were called and asked the following question: "If it was true that John McCain fathered an illegitimate child with a black woman, would you vote for him?"
Now of course, Rove was not claiming that John McCain did have an illegitimate black child. He was just asking a simple question, right?
Glenn Beck is famous for posing insinuating questions. So much so, that a parody counter-meme was created last year asking the question "Did Glenn Beck rape and murder a girl in 1990?"
And just to save you the trouble of looking them up yourself:
There! At least you got a chance to learn something today!
I think you need a course in sarcasm and satire. This is the Atheist News Forum where we make fun of religious wackos.
I dont trust you, especially people who try to put me down because of a blanket statement that they are smarter.
Perhaps you should look up http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhetoric
I wonder how much money a guy has to make to get a woman that won't mind being pushed around, is privately sleezy (but not unseemly so), doesn't mind the guy having several other wives, do all the housework, raise the kids and wear that burka crap. If it were me, Bill Gates would need a second job to get me to do all that. Maybe a third and fourth job.
My dh would have to be really, really drunk to ask that of me. If he were very, very drunk, he might forget that I am in charge. (Just kidding, but I know a lot of guys feel their wives are really the boss).
The Obedient Wives' Club also advocates the wives acting like "whores" in bed. So let's get this straight: be completely pure and antisexual until the minute you get married, suddenly be an accommodating sex freak (because years of negative reinforcement don't make a difference), but again appear pure and antisexual to the outside world. You are expected to flawlessly fill completely contradictory roles. And of course, anything men do is their wife's fault. If women look at another man, though, that's their own fault.
As much as I am not a fan of "look, the West is no better!" there have been a few psuedofeminist books like The Rules and The Surrendered Wife that had pretty much the same mindset: let the man take 100% control over money and sex, and be easy to live with (in other words, obedient, never arguing) to have a happy marriage. Of course it's easier when one person is dominant over the other, but that doesn't mean it's better. People just can't take the challenge of a relationship of equals I guess.
"She's everything a woman should be, a whore in the kitchen and an angel in the bedroom."
"I'm sure you have that reversed."
"Not last night, I didn't."
"And of course, anything men do is their wife's fault." -Prog Rock Girl.
Where does this assertion come from?
I frequently see examples of women blaming men (the "patriarchy") instead of taking responsibility for their own choices. And its typical these days to see men blamed when their wives or girlfriends commit horrible crimes (such as the woman who recently drowned her children in her mini-van). But I don't see any tendency in society for women to be blamed for men's actions. Could you cite some examples?