so my state's lawmakers have nothing better to do than this? i'd ask why this should be important to them, but we all know the answer. their obsession with the big guy in the sky guides everything they do.
i'm so angry at the thought of this. and since the state is currently a Republican majority legislature, this fucking thing may even pass. i guess i'll just have to wait for the lawsuit.
in the meantime, i'll be making some calls to my local rep, as well as the author's office.
So ... The Ten Commandments can't be in a courtroom, but "In Dog We Trust" CAN be in schools and other public buildings? No doubt, Matthew, these guys are sucking for a fight that is quite liable to go all the way to SCOTUS ... where maybe, just maybe, that stupid religious phrase can be formally invalidated and replaced with E Pluribus Unum.
An event which would be badly overdue.
whole heartedly agree.
Loren, a profound YES! E Pluribus Unum!
And that is showing patriotism? And he has nothing better to do with his time? What a dick!
Dealing with these issues is like playing a constant game of Whack-a-Mole. All over the United States these insane legislative assaults continue to surface. I just can't understand how supposed educated legislators cannot see that this is a blatant infringement on the separation of state and church. Perhaps it should be suggested that, in order to make it all-inclusive, the motto should be "In Gods We Trust."
it's simple. they don't believe in Church/State separation. believe me, i've interacted with enough of them online and in person, and they think that Jefferson was a Bible thumper ("he even wrote his own!" they say). they honestly believe that the Supreme Court doesn't have the authority to overrule the Constitution by interpreting the 1st amendment the way it has been. they don't believe in the Supremacy Clause either.
what i find amazing is what they don't believe in: evolution, climate change, big bang, financial experts, etc.
yet the wholly unbelievable Jesus story is A-OK in their warped minds.
they honestly believe that the Supreme Court doesn't have the authority to overrule the Constitution by interpreting the 1st amendment the way it has been. they don't believe in the Supremacy Clause either
They love and honor the Constitution. Problem is, when they actually do read it, they hate what it says. Just like they love America, but hate Americans.
Again, I think reflects their environment and the lack of diversity in it. Everyone around them is a christian, so naturally, the nation from where they sit is a christian nation and its laws and values should reflect that.
I'd say they need to get out more ... but they won't.
Yes, Matthew, there are those folks you describe that don't believe in Church/State separation. I guess what gets my goat is that the majority of their legislative counterparts on both sides of the aisle, despite knowing better, go with the flow and support this nonsense. These people truly are cowards for submitting to and patronizing the religious instead of doing what is clearly constitutionally correct.
We have evidence enough of the killing impact of religious thought on critical thinking. Neil deGrasse Tyson's famous quote:
Neil DeGrasse Tyson - The Islamic Golden Age: Naming Rights
Neil deGrasse Tyson on religious people
"Target understanding on educated people who believe."
"There is no tradition of scientists knocking down religious doors."
"The need to separate science from the ranks of ignorant teachers!"
unrelated, but it goes to the heart of the problem:
i don't want our elected leaders turning to God in tough situations. they need to turn to something called REASON!
There is no way I, and I suspect many others, will not stand for such nonsense. Those who are on the fence about atheism vs. agnosticism will jump off the fence and take a stand in favor of rational thought and freedom of/from religion. Too many of us have been harmed because of the policies and practices of religious beliefs.
Where are the moderate church people on this? They have more to lose than we do. Non-believers can take our children out of a public/religious school system. I, for one, would do so in a flash. I don't want my children exposed to the delusions of religious dogma. I don't want them to learn how to be hypocritical in a structured way; they get enough of that just living among the religious.
The foolishness of "Young Earth Creationists" will reveal the fallacies of their beliefs; to impose such teachings, whether in science classes or in social studies classes only weakens the desire and hunger for exploration, experimentation, doubt, and critical thinking. Our children need to question, to expand.
The sad part, those who are wedded to Stone Age beliefs cannot advance physically, mentally or emotionally. To think all children in public/religious schools will be taught mythology as fact fail to understand the value of evolving thought.
I am reposting my comment on Twitter and Facebook; thank you matthew greenberg.