very interesting read. the gist here is that religion still enjoys a massive amount of respect in America, which causes non or less religious people in America to lie about their faith practices. this paragraph in particular rings true:
Social practices can retain, or even increase, their prestige while becoming less common. Think about military service, which is lionized more today than it was during the Vietnam War, even though fewer citizens serve. Something similar has happened with religion. Americans, especially left-leaning Americans, are less likely than they were a generation ago to go to church. But they’d rather you not know how much less, because religious practice—like service in the military—enjoys prestige as a marker of morality and self-discipline. And the more Americans fret that those values are being lost, the more they value religious observance for carrying them on, if they aren’t religiously observant themselves.
i think this is what makes many of us unique. i know not all atheists are open about it. there are lots of reasons for that, most of them perfectly valid. but for those of us who are, we are outliers in society. it's a sad but true fact that those of us willing to tell people what we really believe, who don't lie when asked, and who are comfortable telling others that they don't believe in religious myths or the supernatural, display a certain amount of courage.
in a strange way, it actually takes some gall to inform a true believer that you're an atheist. in doing so, you're telling a person who believes something as FACT and may even define who they are that you think it's all a bunch of hooey. the nerve! of course, there's no logical reason for their beliefs to be put on any kind of pedestal over ours. but when has logic ever played into the equation? most people believe in something and we don't. and it turns out most people want to play nice-nice.
I don't think most people want to play nice-nice when it comes to religious belief. It's OK if you're a Methodist, and someone tells you they're a Baptists, Presbyterian, Catholic, etc. In that scenario, there is common ground. A belief in the Christian myth; irrespective of the dogma attached to the particular sect. In that case, there is 'Christian' understanding, forgiveness, and a general theme of belief.
Declare you're an atheist to one of the 'true believers,' and in the words of H.L. Mencken, even the saints go for their sidearms. One of the common retorts is that by not believing in their mythology and superstition, you're persecuting them. And they will call down the wrath of their god and the state legislature on your head.
well said. that lies at the heart of Christian Persecution Syndrome.
There is a cure. It's called REASON.
that's sorely lacking in our country, Loren.
Asking liberals to admit that they are disproportionately secular is like asking conservatives to admit that they are disproportionately white. It’s a truth they find embarrassing.
-- from the article
And of those liberals, how many are at minimum apatheists if not full blown atheists, but doing the religious dance because the current political environment (supposedly) requires it? I wonder what would happen if a significant block decided that the farce had gone on long enough and they came out en masse? Oh, would THAT be something to see!
that WOULD be something, but it won't happen. at least not for a long while. imagine if the Democratic Party became the defacto anti=God party. the country isn't ready for that yet. it may even be mostly true but it would give Republicans complete control for decades.
It may not happen, YET. I do hold out hope of the that sooner or later (hopefully sooner), there will be enough of us, especially among the young, who will simply be fed up enough with the BS and rise up against these religio-fascists. It happened with the Civil Rights movement (at a high cost), the Stonewall riots (at a high costs), and the movement of women for equal right (which still hasn't been fully achieved).
Hey. One can hope.
Yes, one can hope.