Whenever I come out Atheist .. they assume I must have no ethics or morals whatsoever and that I am willing to do just about anything --- like lie, cheat and steal.

Anyone else have this happen to them?

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Sounds like a beautiful trip Joan. Your book "A Splendid Heresy" sounds interesting.

How is the writing going for it?

Davey, I travelled through Turkey and Greece with archeologist Marija Gimbutas and attorney Riane Eisler, tracking goddess cultures in Old Europe. We heard many stories from local people that had their base in Neolithic beliefs and come to the present day in forms of myths, fairy tales, songs, children's rhymes, etc. that have been changed. For example, One story was of Pandora. According to folk lore, Pandora was the bringer of all things necessary and good, when people needed water, Pandora opened her box and out came water, when they needed grain, out came seeds, when they needed meat, out came rabbits and chickens and all kinds of animals for food. She was the giver of all things good. When patriarchy swept the lands, in the form of Kurgan tribes from north central Eurasia, they brought sky gods, thunder gods, dogma, rules and the notion of dominion. Pandora became an evil one who brought diseases, pain, and suffering. 


"The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus by the Supreme Being as his father, in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter."

~ Thomas Jefferson

That's a great Jefferson quote Joan.


 I have never understood this. I was never indoctrinated, except when my grandmother thought I should experience church and the one time I went to Sunday school... when they showed a picture of some hairy guy in one of in one of her dresses and they said 'Jesus loves you' and I freaked out and was kicked out. I have been openly a non believer all my life and have never had a problem. Though I am sure I have generated much discomfort.

Thanks for sharing Phillip. I was indoctrinated.

Write4U thanks so much for the link. I'll find that very useful indeed!
Very much appreciated!

Write4U, thanks for the link, and I enjoy Skepticalscience very much.  

Steph, reading through your statements and others’ I continue to think of myths in reference to the virgin birth of Jesus; my curiosity peaked and I went on a hunt to see if there were other virgin births of great men of history. I couldn’t find all the mothers’ names, some were snakes, and others were flashes of light. If someone calls you “depraved” without giving you a reasonable answer as to why he/she makes such a statement, they say more about the person making a claim against you, than about you. Here are some of the men who claimed, or others claimed them, to be born of a virgin.

Virgins gave birth to:

Mary > Jesus
Danae of Argos > Perseus
Catlicus > Buddha
Coatlicue >  Huitzilophocheli
Chimalma > Quetzalcoatl, used cross as symbol
Nama > Attis
Hoelun > Genghas Khan
Devaki > Krishna
Isis > Horus
Maia > Mercury
Rhea Sylvia > Romulus
? > King Amunothph III
Nama > Phrygia
A rainbow > Fohi, China, divine
?  > Codom of Siam, "Deliverer"
Anahita  > Mithra
Alcmene  > Hercules
Semele  > Dionysus
?  > Quirrnus
Olympias  > Alexander the Great
?  > Indra
Myrrha, Ishtar  > Adonis
?  > Bacchus
?  > Hermes
?  > Prometheus
?  > Perseus
A holy-snake  > Caesar Augustus
?  > Rebekkah
?  > Isaac
Amphictione  > Plato
?  > Publius Africanus
Hera  > Hephaestus
?  > Attis
?  > Danae
?  > Melanippe
?  > Auge
?  > Antiope










Sorry I tried to retain columns, but haven't solved that problem yet. 

And the whole thing is so ridiculous. Extraordinary claims need extraordinary evidence. The closer one looks at religious claims of the supernatural, the funnier it becomes ... unless some fool calls Steph "depraved". That really annoys me.  

Thank you Joan! I sure do appreciate all the support you have given me.
Yes, I agree that their claims are like fairy tales. Like a bad fantasy movie.


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