When a new perception or conception comes into our awareness (disregarding what goes on in the brain that it is not aware of, for now), we necessarily have an emotional reaction. How we have previously stored objective concepts from subjective perceptions creates a state that can react fast without having to take the time to process all of the info. The very basic is reflex (completely built in), then instinct, then emotion and finally, in humans, which makes then distinct and unique, is our ability to reason (completely learned/programmed from sensory input) through perceptual and conceptual stimuli over time integrating it properly.
These more primitive forms of guidance are very useful for us to live, we need them all, lest we could not act appropriately and would break down, if not die, quickly. Our brain constantly is laying out a prediction of what the future will be like, in this case, I refer to the entire brain, continually predicting that the chair we are sitting on will stay still, or that things go according to our little mini-plan for the universe around us in the very near future, so that when it changes from our plan we can recognize it and deal with it, like avoiding a banana peel as we are walking (our brain 'says' "Hey, that's not supposed to be there"). When we are presented with a new stimulus, if it matches our goals for our personal values, we have a positive emotion. If it is something that does not integrate well with our predicted worldview we have a negative emotion. These occur by very real and causal connections from the central nervous system to our autonomic nervous system to our somatic nervous system back to our brains where these physiologic changes are interpreted by our cortices as feelings. These emotions are a guide that help us act when we haven't fully integrated a stimulus properly or fully. You cannot rely on these feelings for knowledge. Something is not known until it is processed by reason, the art of noncontradictory integration of perceptual evidence.
Right 'off the bat', you guys have a negative emotional response because you have stored concepts in your head with non-essential characteristics and it messes up your ability to properly integrate new information. Like, always attaching, negative characteristics to selfishness, when they are not necessarily part of that concept, or thinking that one can possibly judge inappropriately, or that the process of trade between consenting parties is a source of suffering, or that sacrifice is good, or that groups of people are entities with rights, or that morality is something outside the brain other than a set of principle to guide an individual's actions. The brain forms proper concept a particular way and when you don't follow it correctly and embrace it, you fall back to emotion, because it keeps you safe in your experience. We have been taught from this at times harsh reality that reverting back to our emotions is safe. Our reflexes to curl up into the fetal position or appeals to mommy's compassion by crying are ingrained in all of us, some more than others. It is the same structural phenomenon of telling a theist there is no god and why they cannot magically re-conceptualize many of the first several thousand concepts they've learned. In my experience, only if a very little amount of re-conceptualization is needed to achieve a clearer understanding can it be done. But I have, myself, and seen others, over longer periods of time succumb to reasons inevitable triumph. Reason sticks because it is supported by reality. All other misconceptions come and go, eventually. Think about the last few thousand years, reason has been, and will always be, the only pervasively functional tool to gain knowledge.
My ideas make people feel bad because they directly oppose what is beaten into all of us by, well everyone else not able to embrace rationality and be as intellectually honest as possible. A couple thousand years of worshiping sacrifice will do that to a planet.
MCT - do you ever have strong emotional reactions in amongst all the logic?
What? Of course, Alice. I am human. Sensitive, but not soft. I have stated previously that my patient's happiness is very important to me and they know it, evidenced by my empathy. No amount of compassion justifies institutionalized violence. Emotions are nothing more than a rough guide. It is more wise to understand the reason for your emotion that to act on it!
I am fairly convinced that you have a fair few narcissistic traits, Have you ever considered that just as AR created here own philosophy to justify her own narcissism, that you may be doing the same thing. It is possible other humans have a physical pathological need that you just don't possess? or have you just read to many self help books? This is just an observation and does condemn you socially in any way as you can use these traits for good and I am sure you do. Lack of empathy for example can be very useful in a medical environment or an emergency, It enables you to respond rationally while others fall in a heap...
We already went over this. I am not ashamed, nor do I try and hide, my narcissistic traits. But it is not a disorder because I am have the ability to recognize them, adapt and moderate my behavior. I have a great deal of empathy and show it on a regular basis. This is AN and I am debating ethical, epistemological, metaphysical and political ideas with a bunch of people who welcome institutionalized violence. It is not my lack of empathy that allows me to tell one family their loved has died and then really quickly intubate someone else in respiratory failure because I can properly prioritize my emotions and my logic doesn't get overwhelmed by them.
psychopaths know exactly what they are, this is why they loath the weak and frail. Just because you are aware that you have those traits does not prove you are not actually a psychopath. I have Bipolar disorder, I know I have it, does that mean now it is not a disorder?
No. People who have bipolar disorder can have great insight into their condition. People with personality disorder do not.
One with a personality disorder has the problem of not being able to reflect on their personality traits and taper them to a situation.
I'd really like to have more respect for you, but it's tough with this psychopath shit. I empathize at many levels with all kinds of people and animals. I am not prone to violence. Knock it off.
I never accused you of being violent, clearly your entire life is devoted in the opposite direction, I just merely wonder if you had considered that emotionally you are not connecting with others the way others would. By your own admission you would not be aware of it, although from my understanding generally a lot do but maybe that is only after being diagnosed. Its not like having NPD would be your fault, It would just be a feature of your own character that would need to be addressed like my OCD.
I OPENLY APPOLOGISE FOR MY LACK OF TACT, I LIKE YOU AND WOULD STILL DO SO EVEN IF YOU HAD NPD (which i don't necessarily think you do, just that considering the idea might make you consider more carefully the importance of empathy, if the lack of it concerns you so much). I AM SORRY
my uncle was the head of the emergency department for about 20 years - unfortunately his marriage broke down and so did he - and left - by all accounts it is a very stressful job - I think that my uncle must have also been good at managing his emotions, to allow him to move from one emergency to another - not a job that many can do effectively or sustainably.
MCT sure - but emotions are what tell us if we have well being or not - and if we don't have well being it is our logic and reasoning that tells us what to do to get it...
I'll go with that. It looks a lot like my, "Emotions are nothing more than a rough guide. It is more wise to understand the reason for your emotion that to act on it!".
Why does your comment start with "sure - but"? Emotions are useful. But, they are feelings and are not sufficient for knowledge, gotta have reason for that.
MCT - some people have less influence from their feelings - than others - I say feelings because I'm referring to a general feeling as opposed to emotions. If we have lots of toxins in our body they can effect our feelings - but not our hormones - unless they interfere with our hormone production - I don't know a lot about bio chemistry - I know enough to manage myself - but not much about it generally or medically - but basically someone with really good health, good diet and good genes is more likely to be able to function rationally and reasonably at an optimal, as opposed to someone with problems with their genes, their fetal development, pathogens in the body, ill health etc.... some who are at the extreme suffering from so much emotion or feeling that it interferes with their ability to think rationally or reasonably - how ever much they may value rational thought - they are incapable to having it.