I wanted to put this question out there to see how strongly everyone feels on this subject. Being that most of us trust in scientific fact and reasoning, I was wondering if everyone is absolutely, undeniably, 100% sure that a god doesn't exist.  I personally take into account that there is no proof of any cosmic creator so therefore I am about 99.9999% sure that there is no god. However we all agree that science is an ever evolving field and I don't think that there will ever be any proof to support the existence of a supreme being, but I can't be 100% sure until there is concrete proof against one. I would like to know what all of your thoughts on this.  

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You're a self made man and you worship your creator.

And you are useless.

And you are useless.



Based on what evidence?

Jason, you ask the same questions I ask.  I can't see how capitalism, socialism, or communism can work in the long run because of basic flaws in their systemic design.  Thinking in terms of competition, or one-up-manship, or win/lose prevents us from thinking in terms of healthy living, living at peace with other humans, caring for others, living as though nature matters, and participating with a sense of compassion.  

I don't like the attitudes of people who think only of themselves or their happiness. How can a family be healthy if one person is picked out or acknowledged to be the one to be happy?  Each one in a family can't be happy!  There are too many conflicting needs that cannot be ignored nor met.  If a family is complicated, we shouldn't expect politics and government to be easy.  

One of the purposes of government, in my opinion, is to protect the weak from the greedy, not protect the greed of the strong. OUCH! I can hear those who don't agree wanting to still my voice. Too bad you disagreers, I expect to be around and noisy for a little more time. 

HI Joan, 

We have moved this part of the debate to

http://www.atheistnexus.org/forum/topics/libertarianism-and-socialism

could you re-post there please.

Capitalism gives us Viagra......a different system might focus on aids or cancer......simplified I know but  it is true that given the choice between an ethical or financial outcome, As a board member you must vote for the best financial outcome .......

I do however think you have a very well thought out position in relation to politics. I will keep an eye on your threads.

Hey Vegan,

How are things?

 We have moved this part of the debate to 

http://www.atheistnexus.org/forum/topics/libertarianism-and-socialism

could you repost there please

I just read a report by Dr Coyne, of the pushback he receives by school kids when he talks to them about evolution. He wrote, "Some of the high-school biology students are reading Why Evolution is True, and I gave a presentation on the evidence for evolution—with a tiny bit about why religion prevents Americans from accepting evolution ... The problem with America and evolution is not the lack of instruction ... The problem is religion.  Until America becomes less religious, we have no hope of educating people about the wonders of evolution."

http://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2011/12/07/dr-coyne-gets-re...

OK, it is time I get off the fence and state that evolution is true and there is no reason to think otherwise.  USA has terrible records in math and science and huge problems to solve; anything that pulls students away from  superstition is necessary if we are to solve the real problems confronting us.  When I left the door ajar it was not because a supernatural energy might become known, I thought science would reveal more of its unknowns and we could understand how everything began. That information, if it does come, will not come through religion but through science and technology.  

At the same time I say this, an individual needs to find internal, moral, ethical, and principled reasoning on which to live.  That is doable.  

Joan,

You may be interested to know that the orthodoxy of Darwin's version of evolution is in question. In a recent article from sciencedaily.com scientists have obtained evidence that Lamarck's version of the inheritability of acquired characteristics is true in part.

I am curious to see whether creationists use the discovery to undermine evolution and bolster their propaganda.

Unfortunately....I am sure they will...here comes duckasaurus 2.0

I don't know if the Creationists claim the beginning was 6,000; 6,000,000; or 6,000,000,000; years ago and it really doesn't matter.  With all the ways dating of fossils occur and with very strong confidence in the technology, we really do not have to wonder if evolution is valid.

There are so many Crockaduck ties at atheists meetings photos I was beginning to think they traded ties, until two people wore them in the same photo.

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