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I need a picture!

The default logo looks like George W. Bush disguised as Jesus. While this is amusing, given that many people will not upload their own graphic, this can be annoying to see all the time. Also, even atheists, most of whom in the USA are apparently ex-Christians, tend to be as arrogant as Christians tacitly assuming that only (ex-)Christians really exist and nobody else inhabits the planet save for their Muslim enemies. There are plenty of people who come from other religious and cultural backgrounds, and even ex-Christians should cease exhibiting their Christian bias.

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Permalink Reply by Фелч Гроган on March 31, 2009 at 8:50am

Its incentive for people to change the default. Default avatars raise suspicion here - every fundie on a fishing trip never changes the default. Using the default is painting a target on your forehead. So if you use it - CHANGE IT.

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Permalink Reply by Ralph Dumain on March 31, 2009 at 8:57am

I don't buy this at all. Lots of people aren't into avatars at all, or are familiar with the term, even. By fundie, I assume you mean Christian fundie. In other words, we're unlikely to be harrassed by Muslim or Hindu or Jewish fundies, after all. So let us defer to the Christian majority in the English-speaking world and go on assuming everything revolves around Jesus.

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Permalink Reply by Фелч Гроган on April 1, 2009 at 12:01am

Ralph: the day you "assume" something correctly, I'm gonna sit in a doorway and put my head between my knees.

Lloyd: Ralph is the only male I know that has 24x7 pmt. Reading what people say only gets in the way of the wounded, oppressed, holier-than-thou squeal. So watch it white boy. Stop keeping the man down.

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Permalink Reply by Ralph Dumain on April 1, 2009 at 12:05am

So is felch just your name or also your lifestyle?

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Permalink Reply by Фелч Гроган on April 1, 2009 at 10:04am

You tell me. You know everything I think.

Is "Ralph" yours ?

At least trying to be clever making name jokes (which other people here don't because they know its passe and dumb, even for 5 year olds) is a step up from the usual flatus.

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Permalink Reply by Brother Richard on April 1, 2009 at 6:51am

I assure you the only reason good old George/Jesus is the original avatar is to convince people to change it. This is also why it says, "I Need A Picture." When it was created, Bush and his religiousness, was probably the most hated person in the world and known by everyone.

We could have chosen this ironic picture:

I don't think it would be as effective if we chose this world leader?

All of this being said, it is probably time to change the default avatar. How about this one?

Also, I am aware of my "ex-Christian" bias. Believe it or not, I have actually worked pretty hard to keep it away from Atheist Nexus. However, this is the world I come from and it is sometimes difficult to take off those glasses.

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Permalink Reply by Ralph Dumain on April 2, 2009 at 8:01am

Thanks, Brother Richard, for your clarification. The last pic in your series--is that Kim Il Jong?

Of course, in the USA, Christianity is the main culprit of our theocratic burden. So it's understandable that Bush-Jesus would mean more to us than other monsters. Nevertheless, there is quite a bit of annoying provincialism among ex-Christians, which is quite noticeable to ex-Jews, ex-Hindus, ex-Muslims, atheists from birth, etc. Good to know you strive to avoid that trap.

I would also add that one degree moved from provincialism among ex-Christians is the attempt to target the Abrahamic religions or monotheism as the culprit. You can find this in Michel Onfray's Atheist Manifesto. I also see it in this blog I discovered yesterday:

The Antichristian Phenomenon
http://www.antichristian-phenomenon.com/

This web site manifests both intelligence and childishness, revealing limitations endemic to American atheists.

I'm guessing it is not coincidental that this blogger as well as Onfray derive inspiration from Nietzsche, who targeted Christianity while evincing enthusiasm for the horrid Laws of Manu. Yet, were we to be subject to a Hindu empire with global ambitions (a tendency which could be flowering), we would discover that Hinduism is far more foul in its foundations than all the Abrahamic religions combined.

I look forward to getting my hands on this book:

Eller, David. Atheism Advanced: Further Thoughts of a Freethinker; foreword by Frank R. Zindler. Cranford, NJ: American Atheist Press, 2007.
http://www.amazon.com/Atheism-Advanced-Further-Thoughts-Freethinker...

The author concerns himself with a wide range of anthropological data and casts aside the implicit bias of Western atheist literature that religion essentially is Christianity and hence atheism = anti-Christianity.

I hope Eller comes through for me.

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Permalink Reply by Фелч Гроган on April 2, 2009 at 10:11am

What a pile of horsehit - you are an unstoppable machine. The only reason you can walk in a straight line is 'cos you have a chip on both shoulders.

Ralph: Nevertheless, there is quite a bit of annoying provincialism among ex-Christians, which is quite noticeable to ex-Jews, ex-Hindus, ex-Muslims

Why does anybody have to be "ex-" anything ? Standing there with a straight face, accusing an avatar of being biased (hint: its just a bunch of pixels) using arguments from your own stilted, biased point of view... Do you believe your own crap ? Its just an image. Get over it.

Ralph: This web site manifests both intelligence and childishness, revealing limitations endemic to American atheists.

Y'know, maintaining an air of aloof superiority doesn't really work if you're the only one that believes it.

Ralph: The author concerns himself with a wide range of anthropological data and casts aside the implicit bias of Western atheist literature burble splutter blab...

I really don't know which is more appropriate...

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Permalink Reply by Ralph Dumain on April 2, 2009 at 10:30am

"Felch" indeed describes your mental activity, a lifestyle in itself. I knew you were an ignorant piece of shit the minute you started your propaganda group. Too bad you lack the intellectual discipline to pull that straw out of your ass.

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Permalink Reply by Фелч Гроган on April 2, 2009 at 11:08am

I knew you were an ignorant piece of shit the minute you started your propaganda group.

Yeah, you left a pile of accusations and hoity-toity jibes to which I carefully responded only to have your mute silence. If you are not up to comprehending responses, don't post crap in the first place. I now know better than to assume you will discuss anything. Hit and run potshots from a safe distance are more your style. You do love the word "ignorant" don't you ?

I'm just gonna call you "Token" from now on. As in -

–noun
1. something serving to represent or indicate some fact, event, feeling, etc.; sign: Black is a token of mourning.

Ie: Ralph is a token of pointless flatus. I'm still waiting to see you write anything of relevence to anyone other than to whine or play some kind of professional victim card. Only you could come up with something as fucked up as "pro-ex-xtian" bias.

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Permalink Reply by Andrew on April 2, 2009 at 11:21pm

I vote for image #1...and agree that the default logo is an incentive to change it to an actual photo or image.

The fundies that have crept into our neighbourhood attempting to cast a dark shadow over A|N did not change their pic. They instead remained with the default and attempted to cause havoc.

Fundies (aka. Fundamentalists of any religion or nutjob background) individually loudly represent their religion of choice which may not really be a problem for anyone other than themselves. A problem seems to occurs when they share their delusion and decide to one-up each other (my god is better than your god...or...I can please our god better than you can...blah blah blah...)

Really...we are apparently arguing the same end, but with differing perspectives. Can you imagine a world that didn't allow you to hold an alternate view of the world around you?

felch...haha...how do I capture that Daffy pic as it's shown above (it's priceless!)