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Permalink Reply by OutlawGirl on August 23, 2009 at 6:12pm

Makes sense to me. When I was a theist I hardly ever thought about my beliefs.

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Permalink Reply by Starscream on August 23, 2009 at 9:29pm

I see this everyday at work, looking at 'data' that you would assume is unbiased, but I've found peers blindly accept data that supports their preconceptions but look for excuses in the testing when it doesn't. It can be quite frustrating when they have double standards for data depending on the concept, who thought of it, what they think about it, and what the consequences will be for different conclusions.

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Permalink Reply by unholyroller on August 24, 2009 at 1:45am

No surprise here. I just want ask people what they're using for brains when they start spouting the usual nonsense.... People will always seek confirmation for their own beliefs and prejudices. It's so much more fun that being hit with the (contridictory) facts.

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Permalink Reply by mthoreau on August 24, 2009 at 2:12pm

As an ex-Marxist I have been guilty of this very "sin". I feel that the mark of a truly great mind is not its raw processing power, but it's ability to separate logic from preconceived notions and desires. The ability to accept new evidence regardless of its implications is one of the most unappreciated virtues of a dynamic mind.

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Permalink Reply by Jaime Paredes Muñoz on August 24, 2009 at 2:33pm

The Catholic Church tries to ignore that in Germany only 15% go to Mass but it is copying all Evangelist methods.They also try to ignore that in Peru ,in Lima,they have lost in 5 years 20% of the Church to Evangelism.Why?The priests are mostly spaniards in a country of corruption and mostly Inka.

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Permalink Reply by David S on September 3, 2009 at 6:34pm

"Motivated reasoning" is something that has been known and understood since the ancient Greeks and Logic, properly used, has always provided the analytical tools to expose it.

I suppose it's good that some sociologists have confirmed something that is already well known, but for those who do already understand it, the study itself, as presented in the article, is probably an example of such motivated reasoning.

Why the focus on a single false belief held by some Bush supporters when there were equally strong and resilient false beliefs held by Bush haters? Why the spectulative conclusions about Obama detractors while ignoring the fact that the same conclusions could be reached about Obama supporter for just as good reasons?

I think there is probably a hidden political agenda here and the authors of the study should apply their own findings to their own reasoning and guard against making the same mistake they claim to be discovering. Until then, their "studies" aren't to be taken seriously.

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Permalink Reply by Jim Mo. on September 6, 2009 at 12:48am

It is good to have a name to describe this. I think that an honest and thorough examination of one's world view and life position might lead one toward some form of existentialism. In that I would include existential hedonism as well.

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Permalink Reply by Jared Lardo on September 6, 2009 at 11:06pm

Ah yes. This is cracking open the vault of confirmation bias. Looking at it's mechanisms, we may finally be able to get some DATA up in this biznitch with regard to psychology ("microsociology").

When it takes some algebra skills to succeed in a field, it's worth some respect, and that time has rolled over the horizon just a bit. Woohoo!

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Permalink Reply by Max Polun on September 9, 2009 at 2:37pm

wasn't there just a similar study that found that people will listen to science up until the point where is contradicts their pre-existing beliefs (especially religious beliefs)? Humans are exceptionally good at self deception.

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Permalink Reply by Jim Mo. on September 16, 2009 at 1:07pm

Have to be careful with this kind of research; it cuts both ways. How many here are 90% sure that they don't suffer from some form of "motivated reasoning" on politics, social issues, personal habits, lifestyle choices, etc.?

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Permalink Reply by John Galt on September 28, 2009 at 8:55pm

"The ability to accept new evidence regardless of its implications is one of the most unappreciated virtues of a dynamic mind."

this is one of the most thought provoking sentences i have read in weeks. i have acquaintance with a character on another site that is a bottle neck minded theist and the idea of the dynamic mind brought to me the eureka moment that she has the converse... a static mind. what clarity this gave me. i had already given up trying to debate with the creature, it always decayed to the predictable "we are persecuted for christ" cliche' which obviates any further discussion. but now i realize that i have to be on guard for the same pitfall... to not become so complacent in my own views that i cannot be swayed from them in the light of new and better evidences.

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