Its seems that whenever I end up into a overwhelmingly misinformed theist friend, this peculiar phrase pops up. The question of a set standard that all atheists adhere to seems counter-intuitive in the fact that there is no overarching dogma in atheism. Is there a good simple response to this someone can share with me? All of the online explanations of this are too long/to complicated for the type of discussions I have. All feedback is welcome.
I agree that all the answers on here are very good.
On reading the question, my first thought was the many places in the bible where god is an immoral asshat. Sorry I don't have time now to look-up details.
Deidre, you are quite correct. Altruism has often been observed in the animal kingdom. Perhaps, just like as homo sapiens we have discovered at times that we have not given enough recognition of the intelligence of our ancient ancestors, we are not giving enough credit to the level of consciousness of other animals.
...............just tell the sad wankers to fuck off !