how to make india atheist

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Permalink Reply by Napoleon Bonaparte on February 11, 2012 at 2:17am

Atheist ? If I was an Indian Atheist untouchable I would kill rich Indians, take all their money and fuck their wives unless provided with a good job, housing and social welfare by the state. Once I am rich in my own right I would end Internet censorship by paying bribes to the censors and end the space program by redirecting the money to the poor. Finally, I would instigate a population cull of about 50% without discriminating against anyone on the basis of race, religion, social class, sexuality or disability.

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Permalink Reply by arnab banerjee on February 11, 2012 at 9:49am

poverty is not the problem. the root cause of the problem is belief in god and babas and sadhus.

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Permalink Reply by MADHUKAR KULKARNI on February 13, 2012 at 10:28am

Napoleon Bonaparte

You are trying to re-enact the French revolution in today's time! Your enthusiasm is well understood and respected too, but you will have to get near the reality to understand it. Arnab,'s enthusiasm for atheism is very laudable, but a hungry stomach can think of only of itself and nothing else.

The conditions of poverty in India have improved since we got our independance but much needs to be done yet. Poverty and lack of enough education is hindering intellectual growth. Atheism can not spread until these conditions improve. Our target for spread of atheis has to be the well educated and well fed middle and upper class. The strategy to do this has to be well planned. Indian atheism does needs a selfless leader now.   

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Permalink Reply by Dr. Terence Meaden on February 11, 2012 at 2:34am

These are worthy aims, Arnab Banerjee. 

Setting aside the first thoughts that it will be so difficult, a start should be made---especially to find a rich supporter and benefactor.

Follow, too, the practical work of Robert Bwambale in Uganda who has helped to found a humanist/atheist school in his country. Look up the name Kasese Humanist Primary School. A secondary school is planned next.  

Telephone +256 785 195561
http://www.kasesehumanistschool.webs.com
http://www.kaseseunitedhumanist.webs.com
http://http://www.flickr.com/photos/kasesehumanistprimaryschool
http://www.youtube.com/user/Kuhaschoolproject

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Permalink Reply by MADHUKAR KULKARNI on February 13, 2012 at 10:16am

Arnab,

Believe me, that I turned to AN desiring to seek help for spreading atheism in India. I wanted to see if atheists form different parts of world could visit India to tell our friends in India how the world is changing very fast. Richard Dawkins came to India to attend the Jaipur literery meet but it did not a wee bit to oromote etheis in India. This is not good, we have to plan and use their influeence to benifit Indian atheism. Leadre like him and others will have to be made to realise why India can be and is, important to world atheism. 

This also needs atheists to be sensitive to different thoughts. Such interaction will not only help to spread atheism but will permit better understanding thereafter also. As I see it here now, atheists here have to get out of their shells and have to understand that being atheist on a personal level does not end our responsibility. I do not say that I have become pessimistic now, We will need to do more effort.

I personally also believe that there are plenty of closeted atheists in India. They do not come out because the typical Indian attitude of unconcern.

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Permalink Reply by arnab banerjee on February 13, 2012 at 5:56pm

i want those atheist in closet should come out and make noise.

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Permalink Reply by MADHUKAR KULKARNI on February 14, 2012 at 8:37am

Arnab,

Dr.Meaden has suggested a way. If that is not possible, then the only other way is our toil, not wishful thinking.

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Permalink Reply by Dee Neely on February 14, 2012 at 11:11am

India is walking down the same path as other countries where Muslims have any power. Any attempt to attach religion is being mandated as a crime in itself.

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Permalink Reply by arnab banerjee on February 14, 2012 at 5:12pm

i agree. muslims are the biggest problem in the world. but the reality is that indian politicians are beggar by birth. they cannot help beg muslim vote. thats why we need intervention of international body just like missionaries.

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Permalink Reply by MADHUKAR KULKARNI on February 15, 2012 at 4:54am

arnab banerjee

Appeasing voters on any grounds is not Indian invention, it is happening everywhere. If we want democracy, we have to pay a price in many different ways. I for one would have a democracy even we have to pay such a price. Remember, people had to pay much much heavier price undre dictatorships. Arnab, what we people in India are going thriugh is a formative process, we either support it or simply watch it. No society in this world has changed without a long, long formative process. We have had our freedom barely 65 years ago and we have a billion people to reform. Youngsters would serve their cause, any cause, only if they are realists and work with the current to achieve their objectives. They will only experience frustration if they are impractical and unduely impatient.

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Permalink Reply by MADHUKAR KULKARNI on February 16, 2012 at 3:39am

arnab banerjee

Someone has said that politics is the last resort for scoudrels. This may even be more true of Indian politicians than any other politcians. Your objectives are always laudable. so please raise your other thoughts also to that level.

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Permalink Reply by MADHUKAR KULKARNI on February 15, 2012 at 5:01am

Dee Neely

India is walking down the same path as other countries where Muslims have any power. Any attempt to attach religion is being mandated as a crime in itself.

Believe me, India is a secular country and a vast majority of people respect this ideal. What appears as muslim appeasement is not that but a democratic compulsion. It is not easy to understand India because it is a multicultural society, but please never do the mistake of comparing India with a muslim country. Muslims in those countries are fanatics. Most Indians, including most muslims in India are not fanatics, but fanatics, like communists, make a very large noise that compells listening.

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