1 to cause to adopt a different religion, political doctrine, opinion, etc.:
It is not a religion nor an opinion and what i believe is that Atheism is the truth,although some may have different opinions, it can never change the truth. It opens the minds of others to the things around and widens their perspective of the events happening in their life. If she converts to an atheist, she may very well convert back to a christian. But if she finds out the truth, it would then be impossible for her to become a christian because she already knows the truth. Converting back to religion then would just be the same as lying to themselves.
Although the reason the word "Atheism" exists is only because Religion exist. Atheism comes with Religion, and if there was no religion, Atheism would only be known as, common sense.
It's not an opinion because it's the truth?
One more data point for the theory that Atheists are not inherently more reasonable than the nominal opposites they tend to mock.
I can't say I've ever really "converted" anyone, although I may have had some impact on their thinking.
I realize this may sound nit-picky but I prefer to think of it as a deconversion process. It does sound somewhat anti-theist but as time goes by theism becomes more foreign to me. Atheism should be the default condition from where a person should begin their thinking process.
Truthfully, while I don't mind discussing the subject with receptive people, I'd rather a person deconvert themselves. Anyone who chooses to face life on its own terms deserves all the credit. Any person who claims atheism is admitting they never had a supernatural experience in their life. I admire that kind of honesty and can, on at least that subject, be proud to be associated with them. Those I least want to be associated with are those who would foist what they know to be a lie upon others. Elmer Gantry types need not apply.
I think so.. I have like 2 or 3 atheist friends who I don't think always were. They weren't raised with religion but they had some form of belief in a higher power before meeting me. It wasn't very hard because they were mostly already there. To them it was just a huge mystery of how life or the universe began. They had that thinking that a lot of people who believe in a higher power do where they turn a mystery into a "God done it" haha.
I filled them in to the fact that even if we don't know the specifics about something doesn't mean we should fill gaps of knowledge with what appeals to us. What matters is what we can empirically prove. They seemingly understood what I was talking about.
Not yet but I'm working on it.
Interesting this topic has resurged again. I'm noticing quite a few older topics pop up in the forums, but at this point can't determine if they are being dredged up because the recent conversation is lacking (doubtful), or simply because there exists a lot of great content in the catacombs of A/N.
I'll add my two cents nevertheless...
I personally believe that there is a very important distinction that must be made between the idea of theistic conversion and atheistic conversion, and not just in the sense that I don't necessarily accept that atheistic conversion is generally very probable, or even logically coherent, at least in the way that many of us adapt it. Let me explain:
Theistic "conversion" generally coincides with little more than proselytizing and the rapid promotion of uncountable logical and ethical untruths. Atheistic "conversion" on the other hand, at least to me, involves a very tangible shift within the self, an exodus from ignorance, if you will - which I believe can ONLY ever occur if the person comes to these conclusions entirely on their own merit. Therefore, I don't believe that it's possible for one of us to "convert" someone from theism, I believe they must "convert" themselves, by learning to become a skeptic first, then to begin cutting away all of the easily diminished bullshit that encompasses religion.
Daniel your statement is fallacious and an argument from ignorance. No one, not even you know the thoughts or beliefs of another person. You seem very sure in your second sentence when you say: "You can never convert Christians to atheists 100%, they will always be some christian in them or at least some agnostic left in them".
But in your last sentence you give way to".I GUESS they have just SEEN STUFF and EXPERIENCED STUFF that atheism can't explain.
Please elaborate on what stuff they have seen and experienced and why atheism is required to explain it.
yeah.. first they had to run naked through their church
Why would I convert someone to atheism ? I'm not appointed to do it.
I am an atheist and that's all. I don't want to think for others.
Jennifer, I have absolutely no interest in converting anyone to anything. What they think is none of my business ... unless their belief intrudes upon my belief. Then, I will fight like a tiger to end their intrusion. If they want to believe in delusions, that is no skin off my nose. If they want to teach "creationism" or "intelligent design" in public education, they are my enemy and it is my responsibility to stop them. If they believe their religion is better than another's, they are entitled to their opinion, even as not all opinions are equal.