So I just have a question, has anyone ran into or know a christian who, agrees with you that the bible is a farce and immoral and all that, and even that the church is just an organization that takes money from the masses, but still unfailingly believes there is a creator who made us, and want to call him god...? I mean,,, what the hell right???
My mother is one. She agrees with the theory of the big bang but tells me some greater being had to have had a hand in it. She agrees that most religious institutions are corrupt and the bible cannot be believed but there must be a "god." I asked her why has she given up on finding answers. Saying something was done by god is giving up to easy. Wouldn't she rather continue to study and create more theories and search for reasonable scientific answers. I am fortunate to have an open minded mother but I threw her off by asking her those questions. The rest of my surroundings might as well be thumping a bible in my face, close minded all of them. I think my mother is afraid to let go of "god" because she is getting older and death is more of a reality.
I think that must be the main concern, is that they want an immortal afterlife in paradise, even though thoughts and memories aren't electrical currents through our brain but rather tiny particle that form between the synapses, and that wouldn't come with your "soul".
Yes, I'm got several friends that will admit to all of this, but still "feel" that there is something out there that is responsible for it all and is watching over us.
This is a good illustration of organised religion existing because people want to believe in a higher power and not the other way around.
We want to make sense of it all, even if we can't comprehend it. So we fill the gaps of our understanding with our imagination. This is why insight and discovery are the enemies of fanciful beliefs. Religion prospers through ignorance.
Even if you could go back in time and erase all of the holy books from human knowledge, they would reappear again in other forms.
I think my Sister and her Husband are this way. They are pretty liberal about women's rights, gay rights, etc., and don't believe the bible was written by 'god'. They've let the jesus-story go. But they just can't let go of that last blanket? pacifier? whatever that makes them feel protected. 'god'.
OMG when I said almost the same thing to the doctor who gives me my meds for anxiety (not anxiety about there not being an afterlife, lol) she said "hunh?". I said we could just be a cancer-cell on someones ass in another universe (the sun as a nucleus with all the planets circling it), or something to that effect, she looked shocked. Stunned. I thought Seriously? You are smart enough to be a doctor and you are a religious moron (she told me she was a christian), and I never finished college and I can understand this concept?
My husbands cousin once dated a girl whose father DID NOT BELIEVE IN DINOSAURS because they are not mentioned in the bible. LOL
I can identify with Jane completely on this. Cognitive dissonance was with me from an early age and I always had doubts. I flirted with atheism many times as a child, but never completely let go.
Through my teen years and on into adulthood, I kept going back and forth. I would get to the edge, stare into the abyss and step back. Towards the end, I found myself bargaining with God to have him send a sign and a reason to keep believing. When I had reached that point, I no longer believed in Christianity or any other Organized religion, but held onto the belief that some higher power was up there listening to my prayers. It was very much a security blanket at that point.
Then one day, I decided that if there truely was a god, he chose to remain a mystery to me and not even give any evidence of his existence. It was only polite to respect his/her/its privacy and assume nonexistance. At that point, it became very easy to look at things objectively and see that it was all in my head.
No Virginia, there is no Santa Clause.
lost me at bible; this is 'atheist' nexus yo! this is frontline!