Guns/Second Amendment

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Permalink Reply by Susan Stanko on April 26, 2011 at 3:21pm

What does the other guy look like now?

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Permalink Reply by Park Bierbower on April 26, 2011 at 5:15pm

the same.  There were three.  Because I was aware of my surroundings, I got my weapon out before they could get theirs out.  They saw I had it and backed off cuz they knew I'd be able to shoot before they would.

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Permalink Reply by TK on April 26, 2011 at 8:14pm

This type of defensive firearm use happens a LOT.  It doesn't get sensationalized, because a) no one got shot, and b) it's usually not reported to police.

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Permalink Reply by TK on April 26, 2011 at 8:13pm

I am thinking logically.  You know the logical first person to rob?  The person I know who doesn't have a gun.  It's an equalizer, not a guarantee.  If you enjoy being a target, then so be it.  Don't make me a target with you.

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Permalink Reply by thomas smith on April 27, 2011 at 12:27am

 

no, the first person to rob is whoever comes down the street when no one else is looking.!! Unless you walk around all the time with your gun in your hand., the aggressor always has the advantage. the scenario is simple; I shoot you  without saying anything at all, no "stick um up" or give

me your money"  i then take your money AND the extra gun you wont be needing any more!!

More guns are not the answer

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Permalink Reply by TK on April 27, 2011 at 7:08am

Willful ignorance is not a strong position for debate.  Explain Park's situation then?  He's still alive, his would be muggers/robbers are still alive.  Why the anomaly?

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Permalink Reply by Park Bierbower on April 27, 2011 at 8:51am

That example reflects in no way the reality of armed robberies, and is in fact illogical if the purpose is to take someone's possessions without being caught or stopped.  try again please.

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Permalink Reply by thomas smith on April 27, 2011 at 9:34am

folks, think about it, , the escalation that you have proposed, i.e.  everyone armed  will result in exactly this scenario. of course there will be anomlys, where the robber is overpowered , and probably some would be robbers will change their minds, but I am telling you the hard core /  or marginal mental cases will escalate too!.

more guns are not the answer

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Permalink Reply by Susan Stanko on April 27, 2011 at 9:53am

more guns are not the answer

 

I challenge you to find anyone in this thread who claims that it IS the answer.

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Permalink Reply by Park Bierbower on April 27, 2011 at 9:57am

Sir, no one has at any point on this thread advocated more guns.  No one has advocated everyone armed.  You really should read the previous discussion here, because the more adamant you are, the less sense you make.  Let's take your original post for example.

 

"mfg / import of them illegal" = lol x 1.0

"make mandatory life sentence any one using a hand gun in a crime" = lol x 2.0

 

"make modification of rifles illegal" = lol x 3.0

 

"melt every one yu get, by impounding or buying" = lol x 4.0

 

"the hunters they can still have rifles" = ULTIMATE LULZ

 

your ideas make no sense.  You want to completely disarm the public while allowing high powered rifles~ make modifying them illegal?  isn't shooting someone illegal anyways?  So we'd have to assume that someone who is going to shoot you would have to be willing to break the law before hand.... That doesn't seem likely, does it?

 

Yes, lets get rid of guns~ that way crossbows, compound bows, and swords will be all the new rage.

 

mfw

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Permalink Reply by thomas smith on April 27, 2011 at 10:48am

LET ME MAKE IT SIMPLE, very few people will engage hand to hand ,  the hand gun allows anyone who get the drop on you to have their way.

the had gun is unique because most other hand weapons require close interaction and some level of strength and skill. if you come at me with a stick, knife,etc. i can engage you and or run away,  if you are 2 feet from me pointing a glock with a big clip at me there is nothing i can do.

talk to any combat trainer if you dont believe me.

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Permalink Reply by Park Bierbower on April 27, 2011 at 11:09am

I know about the difference between melee and projectile~ I'm trained (at an intermediate level) to teach hand to hand combat in the military.

 

btw, melee weapons don't require skill to use; neither does a gun.  Its not that "oh that guy is a good shot with a gun, and its pointed at me!" its about fear of the weapon.  Removing guns for safety A. eliminates people (such as myself) who have used a firearm in self defense successfully and B. makes the guy with a knife the strong man.  Have you ever looked at the surveys about firearms being used in defense?  The statistics don't agree with you.  Again, this discussion has already happened pages earlier.

 

btw, for you

 

its me with my certificate to train MCAP level 1.  Level two is set for the summer.

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