Glenn Beck Calls ALL Americans to Action (as long as you are a theist).

Jump to Update 1: March 11, 2009.

Continue Original Post: March 1, 2009.


Our buddy Glenn Beck is at it again.

In an attempt to start another “Boston Tea Party,” he is calling those who love America to action. He is asking that everyone join a local MeetUp group and meet together on Friday March 13th at 5pm ET to watch his program on the Fox News Channel.

He’s calling on ALL, Republicans and Democrats.

He wants to return to “We The People.”

He wants to stop America from becoming a socialist country.

If you, my fellow nontheist, agree and want to “restore” your country, don’t bother. Atheists are not welcome.

Below are Beck’s Nine Principles he wants you to agree on:

1. America is good.

2. I believe in God and He is the Center of my Life.

3. I must always try to be a more honest person than I was yesterday.

4. The family is sacred. My spouse and I are the ultimate authority, not the government.

5. If you break the law you pay the penalty. Justice is blind and no one is above it.

6. I have a right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness, but there is no guarantee of equal results.

7. I work hard for what I have and I will share it with who I want to. Government cannot force me to be charitable.

8. It is not un-American for me to disagree with authority or to share my personal opinion.

9. The government works for me. I do not answer to them, they answer to me.

And here is his 12 Values:
• Honesty
• Reverence
• Hope
• Thrift
• Humility
• Charity
• Sincerity
• Moderation
• Hard Work
• Courage
• Personal Responsibility
• Friendship

Beck goes on to say that you have to agree with at least 7 of the principles to participate. But why is number 2 even on the list? What does believing in a god(s) have to do with anything? Can atheists not be concerned citizens? Are we not a part of "We The People?"

Beck wants us to send a digital version of your picture to: wesurroundthem@foxnews.com to show our support.

Please join me in emailing Beck and letting him know that his continued bigotry will not be tolerated. Also, feel free to send him a picture of you with something added to make it clear you are an nontheist.

Some ideas:

• Send him a picture of you holding copy of Dawkins's "God Delusion."
• Send him a picture holding the American Flag and wearing an atheist t-shirt.
• Send him a picture of you holding an "Atheist Nexus" sign.

If you do any of these things, please send a copy of the picture to me, and I will post it on the front page.

Thanks,

Brother Richard

UPDATE: It looks like Glenn Beck has responded to Atheist Nexus Members!
This evening I received an anonymous email stating that Glenn Beck was going to respond to the multitude of emails he received from atheists.

Watching his show, I was amazed that he didn't mention Atheist Nexus by name. He obviously has received our message. Unfortunately, he has made it clear, that nontheists are not welcome in his view of America.

When the video is available, I will post it here.

Below is a letter I have sent him, please excuse the length, and feel free to send him your comments: me@glennbeck.com


Mr. Beck,

I am outraged by your continual bigoted reference to the non-religious in America. If you would have said similar things about Catholics or Jews, you would be kicked off the air faster than Don Imus. In fact, if you called us nappy-haired hoes, it would have been less detestable.

Based on today's show, you need to amend your website to now say Principle Number 2 is not optional. American nontheists, who may have wanted to participate in Friday’s event, might be mislead by your statement that one only needs to agree with 7 of your Principles.

Why did your expert panel not include at least one secular historian? Did you feel there religious men were sufficient to provide a “fair and balanced” accounting of American history? How can you with one breath cry about the godless forcing their views down your throat, and then with the other shove your views down theirs? How can you call yourself a Libertarian? Possibly you should no longer invite atheists like Penn Jillette to be a guest of your program.

Do you really believe the Golden Rule implies that an individual must believe in God and that he be the center of their life? Really? I would recommend doing a simple internet search. You will find that the Golden Rule was a treasured principle long before it was uttered by Jesus. One of the oldest forms was attributed to Confucius, “Never impose on others what you would not choose for yourself.” Believe me when I tell you the majority of atheists live by, and cherish this principle. In fact, we would love it if all religious people would actually live by it as well.

It is quite sad that nontheists are not welcome to participate in your event. I guess we interested nonbelievers will have to settle for our own version of the Boston Tea Party, and include bigots like yourself to our protest. Since the Sons of Liberty dressed as Native Americans during the dissent, we should choose some form of garb that would heap upon you the same respect you give us (magic underwear maybe?).

Whether you like it or not, many Americans are realizing they can be good moral people, and can raise ethical children, without the superstitions of religion. They are finding new ways to appreciate the great traditions and rituals that were once provided by their churches, and incorporating them into a wonderful, fulfilling, and beautiful life. One based in reality.

How dare you sir. You owe an apology to me and the millions of nontheist Americans. To borrow a phrase from another minority, “We’re here. We’re godless. Get used to it!”

Brother Richard
http://atheistnexus.org

As an addendum, I thought I would add to your quotes of Benjamin Franklin and George Washington. I'll also include Presidents 2-4 to round out the founders of our great Country.

Benjamin Franklin

"Lighthouses are more helpful than churches."

"He (the Rev. Mr. Whitefield) used, indeed, sometimes to pray for my conversion, but never had the satisfaction of believing that his prayers were heard."

"In the affairs of the world, men are saved, not by faith, but by the want of it."

"I have found Christian dogma unintelligible. Early in life, I absenteed myself from Christian assemblies."


George Washington

“Religious controversies are always productive of more acrimony and irreconcilable hatreds than those which spring from any other cause. I had hoped that liberal and enlightened thought would have reconciled the Christians so that their [not our?] religious fights would not endanger the peace of Society.”

John Adams

"The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity."

"The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion."

“It will never be pretended that any persons employed in that service [formation of the American governments] had interviews with the gods, or were in any degree under the influence of Heaven...”


Thomas Jefferson

"Question with boldness even the existence of God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear."

"I do not find in orthodox Christianity one redeeming feature."

"Religions are all alike - founded upon fables and mythologies."

"Where the preamble declares, that coercion is a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, an amendment was proposed by inserting "Jesus Christ," so that it would read "A departure from the plan of Jesus Christ, the holy author of our religion;" the insertion was rejected by the great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mohammedan, the Hindoo and Infidel of every denomination."


James Madison

"In no instance have . . . the churches been guardians of the liberties of the people."

"...the number, the industry, and the morality of the priesthood, and the devotion of the people, have been manifestly increased by the total separation of the church from the State"

"During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less, in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry, and persecution."

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I don't like #4 either. I don't like the use of 'sacred' or 'ultimate' here. It smacks of the conservative, christian mantra I have heard from politicians and polemicists lately saying 'no damn "expert" needs to tell me how to raise my family (so I can beat my kids and brainwash them against those who don't believe in my god).
@Dannyisme; There is no disconnect with the 6th and 7th point. Charity is an individual choice not a governmental mandate and I can agree with that.

If the government forces someone to give for a governmental approved charity, how is that different than someone mugging you on the street to feed their family?

This is the problem with looking to government for solutions. The powers used by the party you areee with will someday return to the party you don't. So if you agree with the government taking money to support the homeless by the DemoRats then once the ReThuglicans are back in office they will give it to Anti-Abortion groups.

Government should not be involved in charity or picking winners and losers because eventually to wind will blow in a different direction.

As for the Couglin reference, and I don't believe that any of this applies to you Danny, I use to live within 4 blocks of his church.

He was a fascist nazi moron and that is how he is remembered today even in his former church, but he was and should have been allowed to make his case. That is what freedom of speech is all about.

This is another huge problem in society today, people wanting to squelch opposing view. We need to welcome it, then use thoughtful, principled arguments to refute them. It takes work but short cuts are not to be used as they can then be used against you also.

This is why I can disagree 100% with the KKK but I will never fight to stop them from marching or speaking because if they are deprived of their rights today, it will be us tomorrow.
Yeah but what Beck really means is, "I don't want to pay for welfare and medicaid for undeserving minorities". If he really was taking about the govt. forcing us to say, donate $100 to Salvation Army, that would of course be problematic. But he's talking about taxes that support social services and help out people who aren't white, male, and of course, Glenn Beck.
Sorry Angie but how do you know exactly what he means? You believe that that is what he means but none of us knows exactly what GB's true feeling are, now do we?

Social service programs do not even predominately benefit those who are not white as the majority of the recipients are in fact white.

It is intellectually bankrupt to cry racism or sexism whenever someone doesn't agree with your personal belief. I too think this guy is a friggin' asshat, but I don't claim to have any great insight into what his true agenda is, all I know is I thoroughly disagree with his approach.

I believe that demonization of certain view points is one of the biggest problems with getting anything positive done in this country, as it squashes open debate.
Meh, valid point. I could probably marshal a disagreement but I'm lazy, so I'll cede this to you, k?
Well its not like Beck is ever really informed. This is the guy that claims that the census is an attempt to incrase slavery and that Obama is building concentration camps. He might very well (if this stat is true I didnt bother to look it up) believe that a majority of Black and hispanic people are on welfare rather than White people.

This also rather affirms his views on whose getting welfare:
http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/glenn-beck-gets-ask-dumb-wh...
Well, while I'm certainly not on board with #2, I'm not necessarily on board with his other principles either. In many cases, they are oversimplifications that sound good if you don't think too much about them, but may be problematic if you do. They also carry implications rooted in right-wing politics. A couple of examples to illustrate:

1. America is good: I prefer to think that America is good inasmuch as we (Americans) make it good. I think the sort of blind patriotism that unconditionally decrees your country is good is dangerous. Like anything else, America is good if and when we make it good.

4 & 5: I understand what he is trying to say. In 4 he is hitting on a central tenant of American conservatism: keep government out of my face. Yet implicit in the same 4th principle is another conservative tenant of "family values." You know darn well that this sacred family he refers to does not include a homosexual couple, for example. So who must be the authority that can enforce the sanctity of Glen Beck's ideal of the family? Government, of course! The next tenant introduces further difficulties. It refers to another conservative tenant, somewhat related to "family values," of "law and order." To try to get at what 4 and 5 are really saying: Let's enforce the particular version of justice and morality that I, Glen Beck, and my fellow religious conservatives endorse. If you're a god-fearing Christian who trumpets the right principles, then YOU are the ultimate authority (of course that is illusory, your religious and political power brokers are actually the ultimate authority). If you are an evil non-christian, especially if you oppose defy any religious conservative principles, then justice is blind and you are not above it, no matter if your "crime" is victimless. This mindset also carries the assumption that the "right" principles should be upheld by government, morality being absolute, and the principles being "right."
4 & 5 are mutually exclusive. On the one hand he want the family to be the ultimate authority (which probably scares the hell out of a lot of abused children) and on the other hand he expects that if you break the law you pay the penalties. Well, what if the law I broke was because that's how my family taught me to behave? The family is, after all, the final arbiter in Beck's view.

But really, my problem isn't with how stupid and misguided Beck is. My problem is that intelligent people have to spend time and energy combatting his idiocy. Time that would be better spent researching and developing instead of fighting people like Beck's spread of fear, uncertainly and doubt. And outright lies.
Wow! Glenn beck is a class a d-bag
Why is everyone overlooking -

8. It is not un-American for me to disagree with authority or to share my personal opinion.

He makes no mention of whether he means secular or divine, and so contradicts #2

But then consistancy doesn't appear to be high on his, or any god nutjob's, list of priorities.
How about just a picture of me in Uniform serving in the middle east? I should ask him if my service means nothing because I refuse to give in to delusions. It would probably cause his head to explode (a good thing IMHO).
Larian, sounds great. add a caption like "an atheist in a foxhole" or something.

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