Hrrrmmm... you gotta have tolerance of cultures in America, cultures have the Constitution on their sides.
Granted if one becomes too fundie, well, wants your tax money and your kids... that's where the shyte goes pair-shaped. ?
Some women perhaps were abused before by xtian/druggie or über-corporate foreign pimps and just want a way out sometimes. ? They don't eat pork nor shrimp; no beer, wine nor nada. It's a life change from what I gather. The outfits... well, not so happy.
Hey Lindsay, how are things.
Here are some links to Australian Government Statistic on Domestic violence.
I put these links here to show you how we men in the West treat our loved ones.
And just wondering if you could give me some more information about the point you are trying to make about Islamic societies. Also, can I ask which Islamic countries you have lived in and which languages you understand that are used in Islamic countries.
Thanks for the condascending tone.
So by your logic I can't have an opinion on women in Islamic cultures unless I've lived in an Islamic country? Would I have had to have lived as a Jew during WW2 to know that genocide is bad? Would I have to go to prison to understand that it's somewhere I don't want to be? Nice logic!
I didn't say Islamic 'country' or 'society'. How about the women living by Islamic cultural rules in my own country? Let's start there. Between 500 - 2000 BRITISH girls are forced to endure circumcision during the summer holidays every year. Most are flown out to their or their parents' country of origin by relatives with the promise of a holiday, only to be held down and have their clitoris cut off. Many are forced to have it done in my own country (UK) in 2011 and there have been no convictions to my knowledge. The oppression of women in Islam is blatant and despicable. Have a look at a woman wearing a burkha and tell me that religion isn't man-made (that is, made by people with penises).
I've read the Qu'ran and the Hadith and passages giving men divine permission to treat women like property can be found ad nauseum. Same in the Torah and the Bible.
I do not deny that many thousands of women in our own countries find themselves in hideous circumstances but the difference between Oz and, say, Afghanistan is that domestic violence is ILLEGAL and men found guilty are rightly punished. Heard of the law passed by Hamid Karzai's govt two years ago allowing a man to RAPE his wife with impunity if she refuses him sex?
Islam has not undergone a reformation or been brought kicking and screaming into modernity with an enlightenment the same way as other religions have. For example, Spain translates more books into Spanish every year than the entire Muslim world has EVER translated into their own languages. This is a serious problem.
Hi Rock girl, how are thing?
Have you ever lived in a Muslim country?
There is a difference between talking to people who live in the country they were born in and have never left and they love and people who have left their country of birth because it doesn't offer them what they want out of life.
It's like, some people like slayer and some people hate slayer, and some people have never heard of slayer, and others have heard of slayer but don't care about slayer. If you talk to lots of different people you get lots of different opinions.
My opinion is: regardless of whether religion exists or not, men will still continue to treat women the way they do. There will always be domestic violence against women. It has nothing to do with religion. In all Muslim countries there are Muslim men that treat their wives and daughters with the utmost respect and others who don't. Just like western countries.
I look at the problem of misogyny as a psychological problem not a religious one.