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Permalink Reply by Michael Black on January 13, 2013 at 11:04pm

As you will find out, many people aren't worth your time arguing with.  I haven't had anybody act offended because I said I didn't share their opinion on god.  I have had one person quote Ken Ham once.  I didn't pay much attention to him after that.  Once you understand that you and a theist accept a different premise, you will understand that there is no logical discourse that can occur between the two of you.  Ridicule and logical fallacies are only good for influencing the uneducated or weak minded.  That is OK when playing a number's game.  But those individuals still don't count for much.

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Permalink Reply by Tim on January 14, 2013 at 2:59am

None of them are worth my time, realized that long ago. But it is not acceptable to tell me as an Atheist I have no morals, I lack the ability to love unless I follow the teachings of god! To me it is offensive an I have every right to exspress my reasons why I'm not delusional to them. Now if they get offend, then so be it. I defend there right to practice whatever dogma they want so long as they keep it out of a free society. Bigger question is why can't they do the same for a non-believer?

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Permalink Reply by Michael Black on January 14, 2013 at 10:27pm

"But it is not acceptable to tell me as an Atheist I have no morals, I lack the ability to love unless I follow the teachings of god!"

The best response to this accusation is "That may be the case for you."  And then, you end the conversation there.  I would also end any contact with such an individual since they clearly lack moral integrity .

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Permalink Reply by James Kz on January 14, 2013 at 2:07am

As you might also find, you can still be shunned, harassed, and yes murdered even in supposedly modern USA.

There are ways to be open about being an atheist without drawing such fire. I would note in the Eighties, when I lived in Virginia Beach and ran a pagan and free-thinking bulletin board, my home was picketed and my wife and baby son's lives threatened.

Times haven't changed much.

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Permalink Reply by Tim on January 14, 2013 at 2:51am

I'm sorry that happened to you, its very unfortunate. And as the point I'm trying to make, do you do the same to the religious? Are atheist threaning the religious with violence, or threatening there children? So who is the "militant" ones here?

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Permalink Reply by Humble Pie on January 14, 2013 at 9:02am

I think that is exactly right. There are armies on earth, right now, killing in the name of Christianity.  Not 500 years ago. Not 50 years ago. Today. To quote Jesus,  they need to remove the plank from their own eye before they can see clearly to help us get the speck of sawdust out of ours.

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Permalink Reply by Tim on January 14, 2013 at 2:48pm

Your so right.. I just read how they cut a women's head off in Saudi Arabia after the religious police found what they perceived as items of witch craft!! 2013 an there back still 2,000 years. Yes this is real, it's still happening, an they have the audacity to tell me that they are the gauge to all things moral. The religious want atheists to be silent, humble an meek in there atheism. Even in non-belief they want to have control of you!!

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Permalink Reply by James Kz on January 14, 2013 at 10:43pm

I do not. I have better things to do with my time than picket people's homes, and issuing death threats is so passé.

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