I think that religion didn't cause anything good but only start wars, create gilt , hold science back , repressing women's rights, repress sexual subjects , promotes violence racism sectrianism backwardness discrimination ignorance , violates human rights , opression of homosexuals , bigotry , hatred , extremism , terrorism . But sometimes it helps people cope with their problems. I want to hear your opinions and arguments. Plus excuse my English since it's a second language.
PS : I meant abolish not by forcing but using logic and reason.
ssssss... glitchy browser! case in point:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-20280223
Thanks for the link Guitarzeroh.
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Guitarzeroh, you have every right to express yourself any way that feels right for you. I, on the other-hand, find nothing useful in this comment. No information, no definitions of your terms, I don't even know what you mean by "traditional holidays".
Of course religion should not be abolished! That would be as bad as religion being required. Some people find real comfort in their religious experience and why should they be denied that which they feel or want? Others feel no need for religion and have every right to not believe god or whatever name you want to use. As for myself, the notion of god is so tiny, so insignificant, so historically destructive, I don't want to even listen to other people talk about their understanding of god. I hear of a loving god and remember what the old testament said about him. I hear about jesus as lord and I think of the fables and foolishness of his story. Aside from boredom the only other reaction I have is all silly. So, if you don't want to hear me laugh, take your palaver somewhere else.
I assume you selected the word "abolish" to generate interest, however you really need to clearly define your terms for there to be any reasonable, thoughtful response to your question.
The Oxford Dictionary defines Abolish as "put an end to the existence or practice of (esp. a custom or institution). Some of the methods listed are acceptable - "set aside, dispense with, ... " but most are not - "destroy, annihilate, liquidate, obliterate, stamp out, quash, eradicate, ...)
I think the selection of another term would seem to be desirable.
Sorry, I did not read all the comments before posting. There has been much thoughtful response and discussion.
So long as people have the right (or even the ability) to be stupid, woo will persist, whether it's in the form of religion, homeopathy, belief in ghosts, or any other form of self-delusion. To utterly defeat woo would take a level of general societal education which human culture has yet to see, and even that is no guarantee, as that persistent minority of the members of the National Academy of Scientists who are believers will attest to.
We may be able to reduce religion's impact on the individual and society, disempower it from interfering with governments, perhaps even to the point of rendering it utterly irrelevant in any significant fashion ... but removing it entirely may be like reaching zero degrees, Kelvin. You can come tantalizingly close, but get there? Impossible ... at least so long as stupidity exists in humankind.
I agree. It is like those who believe in "I want a bigger government, so I can help you even more". Stay Away, I think you have helped me enough already - Thank You anyway.
Note - I was thinking specifically of His Honor the Mayor of New York - I am going to ban large soft drinks to cure obesity, and I think we can recover from "the worst natural disaster" while running a large marathon during the same week. Look away people - so they still don't have power, and it is snowing out, TRUST ME we will fix it someday.
Jim, your quote stirs its converse.
I'm thinking of an essay on "I want a bigger government, so I can help you even more" and "I want a smaller government, so I can help myself even more".
On second thought, I guess the Dems and Repubs have milked that pairing for what it's worth.
I agree, Loren, that religion can and should be eliminated from government. Also, I like your reference to woo factors and I even wonder why there are scientists at all who profess belief in god and all that implies.