I think that religion didn't cause anything good but only start wars, create gilt , hold science back , repressing women's rights, repress sexual subjects , promotes violence racism sectrianism backwardness discrimination ignorance , violates human rights , opression of homosexuals , bigotry , hatred , extremism , terrorism . But sometimes it helps people cope with their problems. I want to hear your opinions and arguments. Plus excuse my English since it's a second language.
PS : I meant abolish not by forcing but using logic and reason.
I would not mind religion per se if believers would leave it a private matter and not try, sometimes vigorously, to spread their delusion to others. Christians, for example, are mandated (supposedly) by Jesus to spread the gospel everywhere, and they believe that gives them the right to go knocking door-to-door to spread the good news. Religion in America and in Islamic countries is also having a detrimental effect on politics that effects not only every American, but the whole world.
I forgot to mention that we can only abolish religion by using logic and reason like now for example. I agree with you Napolean I say that we can still celebrate these holidays as secular . Remember that Stalin abolished religion to become a god like figure. To me I think that people should say whatever they like , to write whatever they want , to believe in anything within reason.
In this case, absolutely haha
....might be wishful thinking, though? Any neuroscientists or anthropologists on here who would argue that some minds/people groups may actually require religion (or a belief in life after death) to function, and get function, out of this life? I'm aware of how condescending this sounds to theists, but I would be lying if I said I hadn't considered this a number of times myself....
Sorry. I added my reply today, before I had read all the responses. You do more clearly define what you mean by "abolish" here. I would still recommend chosing a different word, as this one has too many meanings.
I like your response.
If by abolish you mean outlawed, that didn't work in Communist countries very well. It's a bit like trying to abolish poor judgment.
I agree with you Ruth. But abolishing it by using logic and reason.
Trying to use logic and reason with someone whose mind has been bound by ancient stories that may or may not have happened, and who believes there is some force planning for us, guiding us, answering prayers is delusional thinking. Is one ever successful in logically and reasonably discussing anything with someone who believes in delusions? I haven't found it so.
Outside the sciences and mathematics, have logic and reason ever defeated emotion?
Emotion can trump science. I'm recalling the guy who about a century ago assembled a dino with the wrong skull and insisted he'd used the correct skull. Ego can be found in lots of places.
Descartes claimed "I think therefore I am."
He didn't feel; he only half was.