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Do you think religion should be abolished?If yes why , if no why not?
I think that religion didn't cause anything good but only start wars, create gilt , hold science back , repressing women's rights, repress sexual subjects , promotes violence racism sectrianism backwardness discrimination ignorance , violates human rights , opression of homosexuals , bigotry , hatred , extremism , terrorism . But sometimes it helps people cope with their problems. I want to hear your opinions and arguments. Plus excuse my English since it's a second language.
PS : I meant abolish not by forcing but using logic and reason.
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Permalink Reply by Anthony Jordan on -
I would not mind religion per se if believers would leave it a private matter and not try, sometimes vigorously, to spread their delusion to others. Christians, for example, are mandated (supposedly) by Jesus to spread the gospel everywhere, and they believe that gives them the right to go knocking door-to-door to spread the good news. Religion in America and in Islamic countries is also having a detrimental effect on politics that effects not only every American, but the whole world.
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Permalink Reply by Ibrahim on -
I forgot to mention that we can only abolish religion by using logic and reason like now for example. I agree with you Napolean I say that we can still celebrate these holidays as secular . Remember that Stalin abolished religion to become a god like figure. To me I think that people should say whatever they like , to write whatever they want , to believe in anything within reason.
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Permalink Reply by Mathew T. on -
In this case, absolutely haha
....might be wishful thinking, though? Any neuroscientists or anthropologists on here who would argue that some minds/people groups may actually require religion (or a belief in life after death) to function, and get function, out of this life? I'm aware of how condescending this sounds to theists, but I would be lying if I said I hadn't considered this a number of times myself....
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Permalink Reply by Jim Schultz on -
Sorry. I added my reply today, before I had read all the responses. You do more clearly define what you mean by "abolish" here. I would still recommend chosing a different word, as this one has too many meanings.
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Permalink Reply by ryan leman on -
I say no on the simple bases that it is healthy for people under a society to have the freedom of thought.
It is inconceivable,irrational and unproductive for anyone to advocate the use of suppression when we as atheist have fought for our freedom to be openly honest about what we find as evident. What is important about a society is that the people under that society co-operate for the survival of that society and without that the society will fall so with that said if we were to abolish religion than what would be the punishment for belief? If any action were to be taken against someone for there thoughts than the society's authority will be suppressing not only the thought of the person being punished but also his freedom to act as he is and thus the authority would be suppressing the people. Is that really progress? To me the consequence would be no different than that of any other religion that has attempted to create a unified belief system.
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Permalink Reply by Jim Schultz on
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Well stated
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Permalink Reply by Joan Denoo on -
I like your response.
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Permalink Reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on -
If by abolish you mean outlawed, that didn't work in Communist countries very well. It's a bit like trying to abolish poor judgment.
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Permalink Reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on
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That's different.
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Permalink Reply by Joan Denoo on
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Trying to use logic and reason with someone whose mind has been bound by ancient stories that may or may not have happened, and who believes there is some force planning for us, guiding us, answering prayers is delusional thinking. Is one ever successful in logically and reasonably discussing anything with someone who believes in delusions? I haven't found it so.
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Permalink Reply by Tom Sarbeck on -
Outside the sciences and mathematics, have logic and reason ever defeated emotion?
Emotion can trump science. I'm recalling the guy who about a century ago assembled a dino with the wrong skull and insisted he'd used the correct skull. Ego can be found in lots of places.
Descartes claimed "I think therefore I am."
He didn't feel; he only half was.
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