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Apparently you can't do polls on here.... but

Do any of you think that Jesus actually existed? What do category do you fall into?

A. Believed he existed, claims are false

B. Believed he existed, claims are exaggerated

C. Don't believe he existed

D. Believe he existed, claims are true (sorry had to leave the idiot category open)

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A: Though I'm sure that his real name was likely not Jesus.

It certainly was never Christ, as that is only what followers decided to call him.

The only claims that possibly had some credibility was that he had followers, upset the establishment with his narcissism and got himself executed, most likely by being stoned while tied to a stick.

As the word in the Bible for the cross is actually stick.

His body may have been stolen by believers or he was thrown into a mass grave and they couldn't access it.

Thus the concoction of the resurrection story.


Though I like this take on the story of Jesus by Darkmatter2525:

Of course Jesus existed, that was a quite common name back then; plenty of Jesus' existed!.  I'd ask you if you mean, "was he the son of god?" but to do so might make my head explode.  Didn't Josephus mention him as well?

Josephus only wrote what he heard from Christians, so Christians had already known him as Jesus.

Josephus never met Jesus, he is only writing from Legend, not from knowledge.

We actually don't know what Josephus' sources are. Though considering that he lived a significant portion of his life in Jerusalem and had access to the Temple priesthood and other higher-ups, it's entirely possible that Jesus was known to them just as many of the other apocalyptic preachers would have been.

Also LOL at Josephus never meeting Jesus. So what? The vast majority of writers and historians haven't met the people they're talking about; that's even true to this day.

Seeing as how Joe was born right when dip-shit got his due, I'd have to agree.  However, by analogy, I was born right after WWII how much do I know about it?  

Remember, Josephus lived in between Jesus and Christianity.  Apparently, it was a big deal around those parts. Y'kno, the miracles and all.


Seeing as how Joe was born right when dip-shit got his due, I'd have to agree.  However, by analogy, I was born right after WWII how much do I know about it? 

You have great access to the people who lived it though, and that makes all the difference. Ditto for Josephus.

BTW if Jesus didn't exist, who was in the Talpiot Tomb?

A guy named Talpiot?

LOL Tom.

Yes, if Jesus was in it, it would be known as the Jesus Tomb.

I think Jesus was tossed into a mass grave and his followers were too lazy to dig his body out from among all the others.

Christians are a bit soft and squeamish!


E.  I don't know and don't care.   If he did exist, he was not god, and did not perform any miracles.

However, my main reason for posting is to see if anyone besides me would like to see a poll feature added to this site.  I asked Richard Haynes about it once and never received a response.

I was on a site that had polls, and I loved it.  You could make your poll either so it revealed who the respondents were, or make it so they were anonymous.  I thought the anonymous polls were the best, because they got more responses, and I think they were more honest.

The talpiot people are OK.  I even donated a few shekels to 'em.  That's something the way the Israeli antiquities licensing people reacted to the whole thing.  As soon as it became apparent that JC himself and fam were labeled on ossuaries -SHUT-IT-DOWN!

They got a couple zillion tons of crete on it now, and they'll probably build a friggin monastery on top of that. But the truth leaked out, that's for sure; for a few moments in time, the truth leaked out!  


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