I have noticed atheists coming out in support of homosexuals. Do some feel that supporting homosexuality is a necessary part of atheism ? Or, do they support homosexuality simply because religion opposes it? What is the attitude of atheists in general to homosexuality? Where homosexuality deserves support and where it should not be supported?
MADHUKAR KULKARNI
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Permalink Reply by David Raphael on December 8, 2011 at 4:17am I agree.
Discussion and debate should be the life-blood of an atheist. After all, what are atheists if not people who are determined to find the truth, irrespective of how hard it may push us, or how harshly our ideas may be challenged?
Atheists, like scientists, should rejoice in having their ideas being proven wrong in the face of overwhelming evidence against them, because only then do we know that we are progressing and getting ever nearer to the truth.
Dawkins: 'I'd rather be unhappy and know the truth than be happy and live a lie'.
Permalink Reply by Alice on December 8, 2011 at 6:16am David... yes that's about the short and the long of it.......
Permalink Reply by nafir nun on December 9, 2011 at 4:13pm ECXELLENT POST...
unfortunately the "ego" will win in most cases
truth is offense for the most part, and most people would rather be wrong and strong than be right and unpopular
Permalink Reply by Alice on December 9, 2011 at 5:58pm nafir - I've found that if I have strong personal support - I can be true to what I really believe - whether I'm right or wrong about it, is another matter.... :)
Permalink Reply by VeganApe on December 8, 2011 at 4:07am agreed
a rational comment in a frenzy of emotional posts
Permalink Reply by Sentient Biped on December 7, 2011 at 7:16pm
My understanding is that Hillary Clinton is not an atheist, but she is speaking how many humanists think.
Mr. Kulkarni has his own agenda. Now that he's been called on his illogical assertions, he claims to be backing out of the discussion - but hasn't closed it.
It is violation of human rights when people are beaten or killed because of their sexual orientation, or because they do not conform to cultural norms about how men and women should look or behave.
It is a violation of human rights when governments declare it illegal to be gay, or allow those who harm gay people to go unpunished.
It is a violation of human rights when lesbian or transgendered women are subjected to so-called corrective rape, or forcibly subjected to hormone treatments, or when people are murdered after public calls for violence toward gays, or when they are forced to flee their nations and seek asylum in other lands to save their lives.
And it is a violation of human rights when life-saving care is withheld from people because they are gay, or equal access to justice is denied to people because they are gay, or public spaces are out of bounds to people because they are gay.
No matter what we look like, where we come from, or who we are, we are all equally entitled to our human rights and dignity.
Let's add:
It is a violation of human rights to mutilate a child's genitals regardless of the social, cultural, or religious motivation.
Permalink Reply by VeganApe on December 8, 2011 at 4:14am Good point, Strangely enough for most people in the west it has or at least had become the norm in hospitals to the point where it wasn't even second guessed. Not sure of the current status....Although I am sure glad it isn't done at 12 years old or with a rock........
Permalink Reply by Strangebrew on December 9, 2011 at 6:51am Although I am sure glad it isn't done at 12 years old or with a rock
Until some particularly dense and 'holier then thou' pompous jackass decides that is the manner of gods will.
Permalink Reply by David Raphael on December 9, 2011 at 7:26am Although I am sure glad it isn't done at 12 years old or with a rock........
Not a rock..but how about a mouth?
Take, for example, the case of the NYC Rabbi who, after circumcising boys would suck the blood from the penis. In doing so he gave the kids herpes, which was ultimately fatal....
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/26/nyregion/26circumcise.html
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6898403/ns/health-childrens_health/t/ra...
It made me really angry this story.
Backward, repulsive, uncivilised imbeciles.
This is what religion does. It promotes raw ignorance.
As far as I aware this rabbi has never been prosecuted. Maybe someone could confirm this.
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