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Permalink Reply by sk8eycat on October 9, 2012 at 7:24pm

Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, AND Condoleeza Rice.  (And some of the more shadowy people in the BG...whoever okayed torturing prisoners, for Dog's sake!)

I don't know whether anything should be done about Colin Powell...I think his conscience is punishing him enough for that speech at the UN...he KNEW it was all lies!  That and his sticking with the "Slam-Dunk" war lords as long as he did totally destroyed his credibility.  There was a time when I would have voted for him for prez, no matter what party he was affiliated with, but not anymore.

Permalink Reply by Steph S. on October 17, 2012 at 5:58am

Any new thoughts on the debate last night?

Permalink Reply by Chris G on October 19, 2012 at 12:13am

Meanwhile; No wonder the U.S. is at the bottom of the full democracy list.

Binders Full of Women, and Two Women Bound

Posted on Oct 17, 2012

By Amy Goodman

You may have noticed that the Green Party presidential candidate, Dr. Jill Stein, was absent from the “town hall” presidential debate at Hofstra University the other night. That’s because she was shackled to a chair in a nearby New York police facility, along with her running mate, Green Party vice president nominee Cheri Honkala. Their crime: attempting to get to the debate so Stein could participate in it. While Mitt Romney uttered the now-famous line that he was given “whole binders full of women” while seeking staff as newly-elected governor of Massachusetts in 2002, the real binders were handcuffs used to shackle these two women, who are mothers, activists and the Green Party’s presidential ticket for 2012.

I interviewed Stein the day after the debate, after their imprisonment (which ended, not surprisingly, not long after the debate ended). She told me: “We are on the ballot for 85 percent of voters. Americans deserve to know what their choices are. The police said they were only doing job. I said, ‘This is about everyone’s jobs, whether we can afford health care, whether students will be indentured.’ There are critical issues left out of the debate. Ninety million voters are predicted to stay home and vote with their feet that neither Barack Obama nor Mitt Romney represent them. That’s twice as many voters than expected for either of them.”

Even if Stein and Honkala hadn’t been hauled off a public street and handcuffed to those chairs for eight hours, Stein’s exclusion from the debate was certain. The debates are very closely controlled by the Commission on Presidential Debates (CPD), which excludes third-party candidates, among other things. George Farah is the founder and executive director of Open Debates, and author of “No Debate: How the Republican and Democratic Parties Secretly Control the Presidential Debates.” Farah told me on the morning of the Hofstra debate about how the CPD gained control over the debates from the nonpartisan League of Women Voters: “We have a private corporation that was created by the Republican and Democratic parties called the Commission on Presidential Debates. It seized control of the presidential debates precisely because the League was independent, precisely because this women’s organization had the guts to stand up to the candidates that the major parties had nominated.”

more here

Permalink Reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on October 20, 2012 at 10:37pm

Thanks for this information. Your illustrations gave me pause. I hadn't thought of that buried linguistic connection.

Permalink Reply by Chris G on October 20, 2012 at 10:45pm

Funny you think of it as a buried connection. It was the first thing I though of after hearing Twit talk about "Women in Binders" having to be home by 5:00 to cook dinner.

Permalink Reply by Alan Perlman on October 21, 2012 at 9:41pm

Geez, they pick apart EVERY word!  If he'd only said something like "binders full of resumes from truly well-qualified women."  Cut the poor guy some slack! 

Permalink Reply by Chris G on October 21, 2012 at 10:42pm

It's not what he says so much as the meaning behind it.

Women have to be home by 5:00 to cook for their husbands and boat load of children.

If we could look at the governors records and Olympic archives we might know something about Romney who's done all he can to hide his past. The tax records are nothing compared to everything else we don't know. All we have are his contradictory lies and made up stories that always seem to miss the target.

As a side thought;

I wonder how much taxpayers subsidize the retirement of employees who otherwise would have full retirement through the company they worked for prior to the Bain Capitol buyout and redistribution of wealth.

Permalink Reply by Steph S. on October 19, 2012 at 12:31am

Thanks Chris for the Binders of Women Romney remark news. I've been listening to that reported on the news.

I will check out that link

Permalink Reply by Chris G on October 19, 2012 at 12:37am

The link is for the story below my post. It's not about Romney's binder story, or about his 'women have to be home by 5:00 to cook dinner' comment. The Twit can't even tell a decent B/S story. 

Permalink Reply by Steph S. on October 19, 2012 at 6:49pm

ok - thank you Chris.

Permalink Reply by Steph S. on October 19, 2012 at 6:52pm

Yes, it's about the women Green Party Candidates being arrested for wanting to be included in the debate - yes I did read it - thanks

Permalink Reply by Chris G on October 20, 2012 at 1:26pm

It's interesting how the League of Women Voters lost control of the debates. 

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