December 14, 2013 By Hemant Mehta
By now, you’re all probably very sick of hearing Fox News and “War on Christmas” stories… too bad. The War is on for another two weeks.
Last night, American Atheists’ Dave Silverman appeared in-studio to go head-to-head-to-head with Sean Hannity and Todd Starnes — which, according to Fox News math, is fair-and-balanced — and did a fantastic job:
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If Islam were in control of our federal government like Christianity is then we atheists would be confronting it with the same energy as we confront the religious who now control our government. Hannity - stupid guy.
Hannity is really bias against him the entire time. I am surprised at the composure Silverman has.
I felt like a thin wire trying to carry a huge load of ... B.S. Hannity sets my hair on my head into static electricity mode. May I offer a presentation that you may have already watch by Silverman, that doesn't have the negative energy that flows through Hannity.
Silverman starts at 13:10
I think x-ing out "Christ" in the atheist ad is a bad idea because it suggests antagonism against Jesus as a person rather than antagonism to religion.
Many people even if they don't have Christian supernatural beliefs admire and love the Jesus of the Gospels, so that could offend even nonreligious people. It aggravates the "offensive, angry atheist" stereotype.
His intended message is "take the religion out of Christmas", but the ad communicates more than that.
Steph, thank you for posting this.
Im glad Silverman is out there fighting the fight. I can't deal with it.
I don't watch FOX but there are so many examples of their bellicose rhetoric on the internet, it's impossible to be unaware. They poison the social discourse and have a toxic influence on society.
I interact up close and personal with hundreds of people a month. Many are in traditionally social and religious demographics - middle age, seniors, and elderly. Often, they just want to have something nice to say. Before the FOX "war on xmas", it seemed like people were pretty much going with they flow. They have no idea what my beliefs are, and shouldn't. To be inclusive they would just wish me a happy holiday. Some would say merry christmas, and that's fine. They were just being nice.
Now even in these brief interactions, people seem more awkward and embarrassed. It feels like they want to be nice, but they don't know what to say. Often, they ask me how I celebrate. I always respond that it's great to have the day with my family, and we stay away from the crowds and have a quiet time together. I tell them I hope they have a great time and wish them the best.
I keep thinking FOX is basically a clown show. People can't help watching because they want to see what antics the clowns will do next. To change metaphors, to me it's like watching a train wreck. I feel perversely drawn to these videos, knowing what I see will only horrify me. There are the true believers in the reactionary pomposity, and maybe that's the majority of viewers, but I suspect plenty just want to see the clowns.
I agree with you Sentient - I think people watch these shows to see fights and think it's like Jerry Springer. It is like some excitement in their boring lives.
Fox is just perpetuating War of Christmas to get ratings. They like to cause trouble and arguing among people.
Daniel, I agree 100%! People do want to be friendly and offer greetings as they experience them. That is good and appropriate. It is also appropriate to not reveal to your patients your thinking, except to extend holiday greetings to them. That is a decent and honorable thing to do.
Faced with the hate mongering of TV and the distortions of some church individuals and communities, it is difficult to keep a straight face when they say something foolish, and difficult to keep the amygdalae under control when they say something mean spirited.
I am glad people feel awkward and embarrassed about how to greet others. That means they have heard the news that not all human beings on this planet are Christian/Mormon/or whatever, and that is a good thing. Evangelical practices impose and intrude where they are not wanted. I have no interest in hearing their stories for the gazillionth time and feel justified in chasing them away with honest expressions of my disdain.
"What even happened to that sweet young woman I knew as Joan?" you may ask, well, I turned into a mean old lady and am happy, so get over it.
Luara, you may be correct in thinking to cross christ out of christmas is directed toward a man, not a religion. However, as I read what jesus advocates in the new testament, I find him to be rigid, hypocritical, and bound to ancient customs that have nothing to do with mental health, and understanding of the natural functioning of the human body. I will offer just one example, and there are many others.
Matthew 19:4. Jesus answers a question from the Pharisees regarding divorce. Human sexuality’s purpose is marriage and the proper form of marriage. “And He answered and said to them, ‘Have you not read that he who made them at the beginning made them male and female. For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’”?
He *upholds creation, *male and female sexual relationships (in marriage), *male and female marriage, *procreation as a part of male and female marriage, and *the sanctity of male and female marriage and sexual relationships. He answers with a blanket ignoring of homosexuality, thus condemnation as perversion of anything outside god’s standard for sexuality and marriage.
John 5:46-47, Jesus gets even more direct concerning the issue of homosexuality. Jesus tells his detractors that *unless one holds to the writings of Moses (the first five books of the Bible), one cannot fully know or understand the truth or Jesus himself. “For *if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for *he wrote about me. But *if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe my words?” The first five books of the bible tell of Noah and Sodom and Gomorrah (Genesis) and the *blanket condemnation of homosexuality as a perversion (Leviticus).
Luke 17:28-32; Matthew 10:15; 11:24; Mark 6:11.) Jesus also spoke of the *destruction of the Sodomite (openly celebrating homosexuality) cities of Sodom and Gomorrah. The sin that brought about the destruction of those cultures was homosexuality.
The man jesus was informed by Stone Age mythology, set a standard of behavior that may have fit the men and women of Bronze Age technology, and fails completely to provide healthy, wholesome guidance for modern men and women and their sexuality. Thus, condemning the philosophy is appropriate, and because there are so many people who put their trust in the man, it is necessary to condemn the man. Like it or not, there is mischief in the man jesus.
Jeez!e this autocorrect,! I have to go back and uncapitalize all the words to have them read the way I write them.
I will go even further, those who impose their beliefs on me, who judge me for mine, are no better than the superstitious, dogmatic, rigid, uninformed for modern humans, jesus.