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Convincing a Christian that the Jesus story is false.

There are a few reasons why Christians are Christian. One of the main reasons is to do with Jesus and who he was and what he did. After all if he was who he said he was and performed those miracles, rose from the dead then it would be foolish to deny his claims about being the son of God and that the way to heaven is through him. What's a way to convince them that the gospels cannot be true?

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Permalink Reply by Richard Healy on January 10, 2012 at 4:21pm

Having just read the backlog -I just want to give Matt VDB this *hug* for dedication shown in the defence of reason.

The thought that's been rolling round my head, now after having read all that follows on from this exchange between Matt and Jeremy:

"Thus, we tell Christians that we accept he existed, but that he was nothing special, that would be as acceptable to xtians as trying to argue that he did not exist."

"It might be as offensive to them as arguing that he didn't exist, but it's a lot more reasonable than arguing that he didn't exist."

Even better, we can concede with relatively little trouble the likelihood of Jesus existing - while not making the miracle claims or the grander theology any more valid or probable. To substantiate the miracle claims they have as Christopher Hitchens was often want to say, 'all their work still ahead of them.'

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Permalink Reply by James M. Martin on January 11, 2012 at 5:50pm

Ask them why God is so homophobic in Genesis (Lot in Sodom) but finds it perfectly OK for that same Lot to impregnate his own daughters once the missus turned into a pillar of salt? A capricious God is one that you cannot depend on. He burns down Sodom for being zenophobic (Lot refused a nomad a good meal and some grousing in the goodie with the host's wife). The Christians are presentist in their thinking that 6,000 year old books have any application to life on the ground today.