I removed myself from an Atheist group on Facebook because my bosses are on FB and I didn't know if it would effect my career. It most likely would since they are christian.

I just wanted to confess this because I feel like such a "female reproductive organ".

If I say 20 hail FSM will I be redeemed for my injustice?

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I don't honestly think most people even look to see what you put for religion or what groups you are in, I sometimes assume because I am FB friends with people that they know I am an atheist, but when I mention it, most people did not know and occasionally I get things like "oh, are you pretending or are you really an atheist?" LOL why the hell would I pretend something like that, makes no sense!
But whatever makes you feel better and safer from possible harassment or hatred is what you have to do. Don't feel like a va-jay-jay for it. its cool if you wont claim us on FB we understand ;)
I had "I brush my teeth religiously" for a very long time. It is a true statement and one not likely to be challenged.
I put "I don't fly planes into buildings" as my religious views. Which is true in case you were wondering.
At moments like these, I'm so happy to live in the Netherlands. I'm such an outspoken atheist, that I could not remain closeted for long anyway.
According to wiki the Netherlands is one of the most secular countries in Western Europe, with only 39% being religiously affiliated. That makes me a jealous atheist in Kentucky. We have more churches then fast food places, and i am not kidding.
I have it narrowed down between where I am going to live out the rest of my days, (because it sure as shit is not here). It is between your awesome country, Norway and Australia. From what I have heard Norwegian is harder to learn then Dutch. If I picked Australia I would learn Mandarin Chinese because of the ever increasing trade relations between the two. I don't think I would have a problem adapting from my past experiences. I traveled around Brazil for a month, which might as well be another world compared to what I'm used, and I got the hang of it fairly quickly. Although being a 6 ft 4' white guy in Belem was like being Shaq in Croatia. I felt like the Gringo version of Wheres Waldo.
The Netherlands certainly has some advantages, but Dutch is not an easy language to learn. However most people speak English, in Amsterdam it's even the official 2nd language because of all the different nationalities that live there. Even though it's not a big city compared to other capitols, we have more different nationalities then any other capitol.

I almost never get angry about religious intrusions into my private life because it almost never happens. Even hardcore fundamentalists know better then to proselytize at the workplace or even in private because religion is very much considered to be a private matter which should not be discussed without somebody asking.

A lot of people think of the Netherlands as some drug infested paradise for sexual deviants, but it's quite the contrary. Just look at our crime rates and the percentage of people using drugs (even the legal ones) and you'll be amazed.

Why don't you take some holidays and check it out?
It's a tough call, and I understand where you are coming from. It would be nice to live in a world where we could ALL be who we are without worrying about fallout, but in my experience as an atheist in the workplace, that is not the case.

I went freelance a while ago, but before I did, I worked for a Tony Robbins type "guru" that was a pretty vocal Christian. On the whole, I didn't care about the religious overtones that pervaded a lot of what he did, because it's his religion & his company. Nothing to do with me. I was just there to do my job, collect my paycheck, and go home. And I genuinely liked my job at the time. I had a lot of fun.

But eventually, there were times where I flat-out refused to work on a project because I found it morally objectionable. The funny thing is that I was not supposed to tell him WHY I found those particular projects morally objectionable. His wife (and second-in-command) told me and everyone else in the office that it would be better if Boss Man did not hear of my atheism, because she liked me and didn't want to see me get fired.

The way I figure it, my religious beliefs or lack thereof are nobody's business but my own, particularly when it comes to the workplace - and the same goes for anyone else, theist or otherwise - so I never talked about it until I had to (and THAT was a fun conversation, lemme tell ya). As far as I know, he never found out about it. If he'd asked me directly, I'd have told him straight-up, because I'm not going to lie, but he never did.

But oh, the stories I could tell about the amazing and boggling things that went on there. Hilarity abounded.

My favorite was probably the motivational speaker that sometimes held events in our facility that began with an Army cadence call & response thing exhorting the audience to wave their Bibles in the air and informing them that "It don't matter if you got a low IQ, Jesus surely loves you, too!"

Good times, good times.
"It don't matter if you got a low IQ, Jesus surely loves you, too!"
Wow, you cant make that stuff up.
No, no, you can't.

I was in the room because I had to deliver some release forms to one of the folks, but didn't want to interrupt the "opening ceremonies," as it were. So I stood back against the wall, waiting for an opportunity to fork the forms over, but when he started that up, I goggled. I can't remember the whole chant, but it also included, "Now wave your Bibles in the air!" and several audience members produced some Bibles and waved them around.

At that point, I bolted from the room, because I figured it was better to burst out laughing in the hall rather than right there in front of...uh...god and everyone? I had to send my secretary back in with the papers after that.
Or can you..... ;)
Aw, are you insinuating that I may be making it up? Such cynicism.

What if I told you he's also got a black belt? And enjoys lining up dudes holding wooden boards and then leaping around and breaking all the boards using his hands, feet, and head...on the altar at church? Cos Army chant guy is also a meeeeeenister. And he can break cinder blocks, too! Lots of them! At the same time! By punching them! While they're on fire!

My former boss fortunately did not engage in those types of shenanigans.
No, I was referring to your former boss making it up, not you. It was an after thought. I said "you cant make that stuff up", when it in fact, it was made up. More making fun of myself for the wrong use of words.


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