...But were they really Christians, or worshippers of America? LOL WHAT?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/belief/2011/aug/08/america-...

Is America still a Christian country? It's obviously full of people who call themselves Christians; and certainly full of religious believers in a way difficult for many Europeans to understand or to accept. But is what modern Americans believe actually Christianity at all? When the mainstream churches went into an apparently irreversible decline towards the end of the 20th century, this was interpreted as a decline of liberal Christianity, and its replacement by fundamentalism. But is the church of Rick Warren anything more than vaguely therapeutic moralistic deism?

The question is hardly a new one. It was raised as least as long ago as the late 19th century by Henry Adams, who wondered whether the American faith in progress and in self-improvement was really the same thing as traditional Christianity. But it's still an interesting one. Has the evangelical movement turned itself into an entirely new religion, unrecognisable to "orthodox" European Christianity: a reinterpretation of the Christian myths almost as strange as Mormonism? Consider the YouTube video of a Nascar chaplain praying for all the sponsors of the event, from Toyota to Sunoco, and then thanking God for his "hot wife" before finishing with the doxology "Boogity boogity boogity. Amen". Is this really anything that traditional theologians could recognise as Christian? Or is it just a wrapper round some mixture of superstition and advertising?

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Here's a response from Susan Jacoby in her book, "The Age of American Unreason", from her chapter "The New Old-Time Religion":

 

A general attraction to the supernatural, extending beyond narrowly defined fundamentalism, lies at the heart of the profound divide not only between religious American and secular Europe but between devout religious believers and secularists within the United States. (p 208)

 

Americans, as a whole, have no problem escaping reality on a daily basis and forming opinions based on their superstitions.  The chasm between traditional theologians and fundamentalists is growing because the evangelicals do not appeal to our intellect, they appeal to our emotions.  Feelings trump reason.  It really becomes a mixture of superstition and marketing, like discussed above.  The most effective forms of advertising have emotional 'hooks'.   I can't help but think of the revival meetings and pray-a-thons, with all the crying and raw emotions. There is no way the Puritans landing in the New World would have stood for such open displays of 'Christianity'!  Protestants used to be a little more reserved!!  I think it has to do with our modern ideas of a 'personal relationship with Jesus'.  Jesus and the New Testament are front and center...and Revelations (End Times).

 


 


r is it just a wrapper round some mixture of superstition and advertising?

This.  I think other countries just look @ us (USA) and shake their heads.

Completely related to the mixture of tele-evangelizing and info-tainment.   We love our TV in the USA.  It is therapeutic.  Just like religion.  Emotionally satisfying.

 

We are also uber religious for a 'modern' country.  Social commentators used to predict the end of superstition when countries became more advanced and modern...now we can see that it's a more complex cultural phenomenon.  Our history is unique... and when have we really cared about what other countries think?  Think of our doctrine of "American Exceptionalism"... that pretty much sums it up.  Personally, I'm embarrassed by it...but that makes me part of the minority, not the majority of Americans!

I'm embarrassed by it also Mojo.  I think there are a LOT of dumb people out there who wouldn't even think deeply enough to be embarrassed by it.  They run around with their "Proud to be an American" & "god bless the USA" bumperstickers on their vehicles...  I'm GLAD I'm an American, I don't see how being randomly born here should make me Proud.

it's 2011:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14465150
not commi russia

anyhow; sometimes it just becomes a brain fart..
but the whole religion thing w/it's commerciali$m and etc..
ughm. to dwell is the pray; when you dwell too much... ?
there are cultures that have advanced way beyond what xtianity

or any other religion can fathom. idol free because you become it.

whatever new movement/way of life culture you might be part of.
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