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Permalink Reply by booklover on July 13, 2012 at 7:57am

Actually I think what any candidate says they believe religiously is fair-game, unless they say they don't believe any of that bullshit.  I don't believe some of the ''christian" Dems really believe that crap.  They just know they have to say they believe it in order to get elected by the sheeple.  I don't want someones scary-ass beliefs running our country.

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Permalink Reply by Loren Miller on July 13, 2012 at 8:48am

In the final analysis, religion - belief in the supernatural - is absurd.  If anyone is attacked for public belief in such absurdity and has to defend his belief, does he have a defense other than that others agree with his belief, that it is a norm of society and an accepted tradition?

This is yet another case of The Emperor Has No Clothes, though in this case, I imagine the mormons are wearing their magic underwear at least.  If they get called on it, are the whistle-blowers to be blamed for calling bullshit or are the mormons for indulging in bullshit?

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Permalink Reply by booklover on July 13, 2012 at 11:40am

You hit the nail on the head as usual Loren.  The defense of someones absurd belief is that the majority of others are equally dumb is no defense at all.  They can't see that though.  If 100% of people on Earth believed that there is a magic sky-daddy STILL wouldn't make it so.  It shouldn't be respected, it should be called-out and pointed-out that that is INSANE, and having our country run by someone who believes that is as scary as f---.

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Permalink Reply by Pat on July 13, 2012 at 9:10am

The difference between a religion and a cult is the amount of real estate they own. Frank Zappa.

Mormonism, under that definition, certainly qualifies as a religion. As does the Catholic Church, Southern Baptists, and Scientologists, among others. And, I've got to give it to the Mormons. Like their Catholic brethren, they know how to milk $$$ out of their after-life protection racket.

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Permalink Reply by Loren Miller on July 13, 2012 at 9:28am

The Zappa quote is a new one on me, Pat - thanks!

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Permalink Reply by Sandi on July 13, 2012 at 9:48am

We discussed elsewhere about if Romney were elected POTUS.

Does anyone think this maybe a push from the mormons? ie: having a POTUS that represents them? Presidents in the past have certainly 'said' the were christian in some shape or form but I don't think it has ever been a major factor, just as long as he was god loving in some way. I would have to research each Presidents religious agenda to note that perhaps each one was in a 'mainstream' church, that is to say nothing radical. I deem the mormons to be radical because of the crazy shit they believe, ok it's all crazy shit but theirs is craziER!.

And what influence would the mormon church have? How would they benefit (on top of the benefits they already receive).

Can and has the mormon church donated to SuperPac's ? I know it is highly possible and probable that members could certainly donate privately.

I am very surprised and the strict lifestyle structure of the mormons and yet they have no problem with owning shares in Burger King etc. Seems kind of hypocritical. Oh yes, sorry, no one said they couldn't be.

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Permalink Reply by Loren Miller on July 13, 2012 at 11:45am

The mormons backstopped the putsch for Prop 8 in California.  If they can do that and get away with it, what's to stop them from doing anything else?

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Permalink Reply by Justin True on July 13, 2012 at 12:55pm

The Mormon problem is this. We are caught up in a post 9/11 America. After 9/11 and the backlash at the Muslim population, I believe what we have is people afraid of being accused of being discriminative against him and his superstition. If this were before them clowns flew the planes into the buildings for their so called paradise with 72 crystal raisins, we would be seeing a different story. I think most people these days realize that their superstition is wrong logically, but choose to follow only due to tradition and fear of stepping out from underneath the umbrella of ignorance. 

People know that once you pull someone's Bullshit card on being stupid for something, odds are your is next. The thing is with Mormons, everybody knows they are fuck nutz! But only a few will step out into the realm of honesty and call them out on it. Do you think a band of Mormons will burn down a newspaper stand for selling this? I don't think so... 

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Permalink Reply by Sandi on July 27, 2012 at 10:46am

Romney As A Mormon Bishop: What Was He Like?

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