let see, a cleric said universities shouldn't be mixed, they flamed him called him a terrorist and demanded that he shouldn't be allowed to speak in public again
I criticize them in one of their forums, told them they don't know what liberalism is and said must of their aims are stupid and they don't discuss far bigger problems and subjects they trashed me and told me I have mental illness for being agnostic.
thanks to them they ruined the liberalism reputation in my country.
well the cleric said males and females should be separated in universities, I think he has the right to say his opinion, they called him a terrorist, its a serious accusation, unless they prove it they should be sued.
they wanted to take away his right of free speech, and they claim they want free speech how hypocritical.
I told them their aims are stupid because most of these Saudi liberal has causes like Cinema, they talk about how Cinema should be allowed and how music should be introduced to schools or how women should be allowed to wear anything in the streets, they never discuss how chemistry and physics should be improved in schools, how labs should exit in every school, or how to create more jobs, or how to make the country a better place. I'm not against these ideas, but these are their main ideas, and there are far more things should be changed and discussed then Cinema.
and like I said they don't like free speech to these who are against them or these who critize them.
there is a famous comedy TV show called "tash ma tash" run by a liberal guy who is also the main actor he always make fun of everyone especially religious people and the Saudi fake-liberals praised him all the time in their newspapers, one day he made fun of them they flamed him! lol and called his program stupid and pointless.
even famous independent liberals criticize them, eventually liberalism is misunderstood in the country because of these people.
Are you referring to the cleric Abdel Rahman al-Barrak, who suggested that people who promote gender-mixed schools or workplaces should be killed?
Suggesting someone should be killed for promoting gender mixing is very different from simply disagreeing with gender mixing.
Personally, while I certainly believe that people have the right to their opinions and free expression of those opinions, I'm not sure whether that free speech should extend to calling for murder.
Do you know of anyone gay in your country? I know a lot of people from India and homosexuality is pretty taboo there. I really wonder what people do in a country where they can be killed for it--how do they meet each other if at all, or do they just stay closeted?
Honestly no, there used to be a famous guy who used to dance, act talk and look like a girl for money(not sure if he sold his body for sex too), his pictures and videos were spread everywhere, after many complains the prince of Riyadh eventually kicked him out of the country, and he went to Lebanon.(his mother is Lebanese)
Do they actually have to see the homosexual act itself? If so, I don't think they can catch too many gays. If two women counts as one man... do they need 8 women to witness the "crime"? I don't know how women interact in Saudi Arabia but I rarely see so many women flocking together. 8 ha? It reminds me of 8 femmes. Do you see what happens if you put 8 women together?!
Your book of rules says that in order for anyone to be stoned for adultery you have to have four witnesses to verify that fact, am I correct in my understanding of the law??
If so then what was those four witnesses doing?? How were they able to see this act of adultery, since most things of that nature are done in secret?? With such strict laws in mind one would think that they would be vary careful not to get caught, I mean it wouldn't be like they were having their pleasure in the backseat of a car in the open.