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Are you open about being an atheist or are you in the closet?
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Permalink Reply by Sarah Elizabeth Tygert on -
I hope you two don't mind, but I figured since this topic was getting so much attention, and became such a continuing tangent in this topic that it deserved it's own thread. That way this one can stay on the issue of being open about being out of the closet.
I particuarly have enjoyed the discussion, just didn't want to be inconsiderate to the OP any longer by flooding the thread. =)
http://www.atheistnexus.org/forum/topics/humanism-vs-naturalism
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Permalink Reply by Colin O'flanagan Leahy on
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I think we're all atheists as far as the God of Abraham belief is concerned. ( remember that Abraham is the one that introduced us to this God that all the ho ha is about) but you would have to be cock sure of yourself to be able to say that there is not an ultimate inteligence bigger than the universe ( technically speaking) even though it is quite evident that the universe is self supporting.
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Permalink Reply by Joan Denoo on -
That is why I like listening or reading Lawrence Krauss, Neil deGrasse Tyson, David Suzuki, Isaac Newton, Albert Einstein, Galileo, Copernicus, and other scientists.
They discuss natural forces: gravity, magnetism, electricity, strong force and weak force, time and matter, chemistry, astronomy, physics, quantum physics, biology, geology, DNA, natural selection, evolution, etc.
They make more sense than god created earth in seven days, or whatever; that the universe is 6 thousand years old, or whatever; that Jesus walked on water, or whatever; that there is a heaven and hell and someone lets us pass through the gates, or whatever; that we are doomed to burn for eternity in hell if we don't obey, or whatever; that we must be born again, or whatever; that we will meet our loved ones in paradise, or whatever.
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Permalink Reply by Kevin on -
I'm an asshole about it. I'll get in a fistfight if I have to. I have no respect for the religious and they can kiss my ass.
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Permalink Reply by William Burns on -
Kevin, please don't. It will just give them ammo to label us as amoral, violent anarchists. Find quotes in the bible which make their positions look silly. Keep your anger, but direct it in a logical way. Force them to kiss your ass! ;)
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Permalink Reply by Joan Denoo on
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William, I like that idea.
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Permalink Reply by Joan Denoo on
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Kevin, No need! Fighting verbally or physically with someone who believes god exists, that one is to obey god, that there are consequences if we don't accept Jesus as savior, is like fighting a cloud, or puff of smoke. There is nothing of substance to fight about. Save your energy for enjoying life and all that implies.
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Permalink Reply by Ojay Okoth on -
My family has yet to discuss and fully accept my position as an atheist, although I've been one for over thirteen years! Everytime the subject comes up, my mother makes it about herself and questions why I spit on her parenting; so in as much as I don't hide it to my family, it's a no go zone in terms of discourse.
In my neighborhood, all my mates know me to be one. It is those people who don't know me who label me a devil worshiper and some have physically attacked me all in the name of defending something they hardly put enough time to adore.
Always a delight, being in the company of rational people!
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Permalink Reply by Joan Denoo on
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Ojay, Ouch! It really hurts when religion comes between parent and child. Even as we want to hold on to a relationship, it is difficult, at least for me, to listen to the rhetoric of religion when I know it to be babble. Yes, healthy and fulfilling conversation can occur here.
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Permalink Reply by Christian O lopez on
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I am new to athiesm and just recently came out about it. My entire family including my wife are religious. As soon as I came out they began to get angry with me, condemning me to hell, and have ignored any communications with me. It is a tough situation but I choose to not take importance in other peoples ignorance and I've dealt with it perfectly fine.
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Permalink Reply by William Burns on
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Here in the northeast there is less of a hostile reaction, although I am in a neighborhood which doesn't embrace atheism. However, I lived in Virginia for four years, and I often felt admitting my atheism would endager my family's and my own life. A neighbor, whom I liked, actually admitted to me that she would stab me in the throat if she knew I was an athiest. (She wholeheartedly assumed I wasn't and admited to her tolerance toward catholics.) It was scary. As a teacher I saw students being indocrinated and even spoke out against a prayer being said before a staff meeting. The result of the latter was that the prayers ceased while I was there, but it was clear my complaint wasn't kept confidential. Luckily, I left that year, and I found out the prayers continued the following year.
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