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ARE YAHWEH AND ALLAH SAME, HOW DO THEY COMPARE?

The Bible and The Quran both describe a unitary god. They belonged to the same region, they mention some common prophets, they both say that they created the world in six days. Are they therefore same? Can the similarities or the differences between them answer above question?

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Permalink Reply by Marc Draco on January 19, 2012 at 10:43am

They are two of the abrahamic religions. Judaism is the third. All are based on the same fallacies, etc. as is mormonism which descended from the KJV!

Permalink Reply by Greg LeGore on January 21, 2012 at 9:38am

Of course, Mormons used to consider themselves NOT xians and would have been offended by such a title. Then, in the 1960s with the civil rights legislation, the Mormon Church faced the possibility of losing its tax-exempt status, and they 'found religion' (sorry, couldn't resist)...then proclaiming that black people were not so inherently inferior and could now hold Mormon church offices. Now they want to be part of the large (but shrinking) xian tent. If you've ever tried to read the Book of Mormon (I did - amazingly turgid, many errors in direct quotes from the bible, etc. - a rare book I couldn't finish), you'd see how crazy and made up (by Joseph Smith) it is. In the 2008 elections, some evangelicals in the south specifically mentioned the key points by which mormonism would be rightly considered both non-xian (e.g., new dogma post-jesus) and a cult.

Permalink Reply by Troy Gorsline on January 19, 2012 at 10:52am

I would content they are both very similiar to identical - they are both myths. To take more of a discussion role, I would refer you to The History of God by Karen Armstrong. It is an excellent comparison of the three major religions of the world and thier many similarities... including how man has adjusted his beliefs to suit their own interests. So much for unchanging doctrines the fundamentalists continue to brag about.

Permalink Reply by Jason Fleming on January 19, 2012 at 11:11am

My understanding of Islam is that they believe Jews and Christians are all "people if the book" and are indeed worshiping the same God. However, they are doing it wrong and should be made to convert to islam, "by the sword" if necessarily. They recognise Jesus as a prophet, but not as the son of god and part of the holy trinity. I've even heard somewhere that they believe Jesus will come back in the end-times (I don't have anything to cite though)

But it doesn't matter though, because common ground isn't enough in religion. Dogma dictates all or nothing. Muslims still kill slightly different muslims (sunni/shea) in the name of "Allah". Christians still kill slightly different Christians (Catholics/Protestants, Protestants/Mormons, etc) in the name of "God" and Jesus. If there were truth in religion, they wouldn't have so much to argue about as the truth would rise to the top.

Discourse based on reason and logic is short-lived because someone is always proven wrong and we move on to something else. The "sons of Abraham" have been fighting over the same arguments for 2000 years.

Permalink Reply by Jason Fleming on January 19, 2012 at 11:34am

And lets not forget the Sabians. (I just heard about them myself)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabians

Permalink Reply by Andrew Wiggin on January 21, 2012 at 10:32am

Not to mention Baha'i, Druze, and Moonie.

But wait, there's more...

Permalink Reply by Dr. Terence Meaden on January 19, 2012 at 1:01pm

Mohammed was an illiterate prefrontal epileptic who knew something of the Christian and Jewish religions. During his seizures he created mental images of his understanding of a unitary god. The first Muslim was his wife who helped ensure that his dreamtime post-fit memories got passed on, redacted and written down. He cherry-picked what he preferred to borrow from the earlier religions and so started a new religion----much as Joseph Smith, Charles Taze Russell and L. Ron Hubbard did.

Permalink Reply by Tony Minoldo on January 19, 2012 at 2:13pm

Well, I knew about Mohammed's illiteracy, but I must confess I didn't know about his pfrefrontal epilepsy, thank you for the information. I can add that Mohammed asked the Jewish to join his (not so new) religion and at the beginning muslims will pray kneeling towards Jerusalem. When the Jewish replied "no", Mohammed ordered to begin prying looking towards Mecca...

Permalink Reply by Dr. Terence Meaden on January 19, 2012 at 2:25pm

The best reference on the web for the subject of Mohammed's likely temporal lobe epilepsy is Ali Sina

http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sina41204.htm

Permalink Reply by Andrew Wiggin on January 21, 2012 at 10:57am

Great article, thanks.

> Sometimes he would stay motionless as if some terribly heavy load was pressed on him

Sounds like he was beset by an incubus. That's my call.

Permalink Reply by Greg LeGore on January 19, 2012 at 6:29pm

And he ordered the killing of the jewish people

Permalink Reply by Stephen McMahon on January 21, 2012 at 9:59am

Exactly the same way the writers of the Torah ordered the killing and massacres of thousands & thousands of Gentiles - and delighted in it. Even today popular media jewish rabbis in Israel, like Rabbi Yitzhak Shapira, in his best-selling book, "Torat Ha'Melech" ("The King's Torah") describes the laws, in the Torah, concerning the killing of non-Jews. Answering the question of when it is permissible to take the life of a non-Jew, or "Goyim". Shapira writes that non-Jews are "uncompassionate by nature" and should be killed in order to "curb their evil inclinations." According to the Good Rabbi, "If we kill a gentile who has has violated one of the seven commandments... there is nothing wrong with the murder." He goes on & on, adding, "There is justification for killing babies if it is clear that they will grow up to harm us, and in such a situation they may be harmed deliberately, and not only during combat with adults." And remember, this is a best-seller, in Israel - today.

If you please, Mr. LeGore, by far the most violent and genocidal of the 3 Abrahamic religions is Judaism.