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Are known atheists more likely to be convicted of violent crimes?

This question came to me after watching a forensics show recently. This lady in Atlanta had been killed and the DA had a pretty strong case against her husband. One of the husband's good friends (whom he owed money to) was also killed. The husband said the friend had came into his house (thinking it empty) to rob him for the debt and surprised the wife, so he killed her, then husband came in and killed friend in self defense. Both men were bookies, by the way.

One of the things introduced in the trial by the prosecution was the idea that the couple was having big problems, including their difference of religion. She was a Christian with "very strong feelings" about her spirituality. He was atheist. Again, the prosecution already had a good case without this tidbit.

What stood out to me was the jury deliberation time. They came back with a guilty in 45 minutes. That's awful damn fast. Do you think the jury just thought "sure he's guilty because atheists have no morals"? Seemed like it was at least a contributing factor.

So, if one of us was on trial for murder or some other violent crime, do you think it would sway a jury to "guilty" due to our lack of religion?

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Just one more reason to not be shy about being an atheist and what that means. If the attorney has to be very clever to educate a jury during trial, then the job begins now, and here, wherever here is. Atheist parents have been dealing with this issue in child custody cases.

Therefore, to jack up the pace a bit, what do you see as the next best strategy? 

I think the overall best strategy is to be OUT as atheists, full stop.  If we quit hiding and refuse to be intimidated, the believers will ultimately have to start dealing with us and at some level or other, acknowledge that we ARE human beings, that we aren't what Psalm 14 says we are and Adapt To Us.  Granted this is more feasible in some areas of the US than others, but we have to start somewhere.

Darwin knows, we've adapted to THEM long enough.  Time for the shoe to go on the other foot.

I agree with you again Loren. I'm out and damned the consequences. Of course I live in such a tiny area l could well be damned if I were ever unfortunate enough to be tried for anything.

...l could well be damned if I were ever unfortunate enough to be tried for anything.

LOL. The fear of a next life keeps some believers from doing wrong.

The believers just think we are deluded and "funny" (as in demented).

@Loren, the judges could use some help too. The judge who ruled the murder trial l sat on, just a couple weeks ago, swore us jurors in. Without the option of affirm. And, swore every witness in until one objected on religious grounds. I started to object on atheist grounds. But, really, since I don't believe why does it matter if I swear on a unicorn.

@Tom, of course the private sector will prophet from an enterprise that funnels the taxpaying dollars of even non-believers since this is a sanctioned "faith-based initiative" (thanks for George W. Bush for the euphemism). What it is is non-prophet profiting by a fear in death, the selling of myth to give gullibles "meaning in our lives" so that they don't catch on to the fact they are hamsters going round and round inside a cage.

The software sometimes works and sometimes not. Right now, I am typing on a reply box complete with a toolbar for font, etc., and when you see that, you know your comment will appear directly below the previous one, so it will be obvious who you're commenting to, but if you do not get a box with the tool bar, you must put an "at" (@) before the name, and then the message. As in, @Deidre32: bla bla bla.

Yes, I believe Atheists are judged unfairly, in all aspects, thus resulting in discrimination and ruining of life.

The 'justice' system is biased - most law enforcers, attorneys, judges, court officials, have brain-imprinted 'beliefs' that influence their decisions - I bet 90% of those imprinted beliefs are 'christian' or of another extreme religion system. Those people have most likely advanced easily (in their career) by stating they're 'religious'. Proclaiming one is 'religious' evokes a mainstream, instantaneous psychological 'buy-in' that religious people MUST be honest, fair, ethical in their chosen 'justice' career. Why does mainstream society buy-in to false notions that religious people are 'good' and non-theists are 'bad'?...media (Media is POWERFUL!), churches, familys passing down beliefs, peer pressure, celebrity reinforcements etc.

SO,... if 'justice'-career people have been religion-imprinted and/or are actively participating in religions that constantly 'reinforce Atheists are tainted, 'lost', confused, non-social, unethical, not-to-be-trusted, evil etc... those 'justice'-career folks let their bias influence how Atheists are treated, convicted etc. If an Atheist is being indicated as a criminal and is being tried in the 'justice' system... and there's no Smoking Gun, there's no hard evidence against that person... they 'justice' person (judge, lawyer etc) most likely will inflict their religious bias and pass unfair judgement against an Atheist.

@Tom, once against, Napolean said religion was a necessary evil that at the least keeps the masses from executing their oppressors.

Also, many people become minsters/clergy because they already HAVE a criminal record and are not able to secure a 'normal', benefits-paying job. They might have misdeameaner many company policies or HR bans (i.e. sexual assault, pedophelia, hard drugs, domestic assault, burglary, money-theft etc). In order to make easy $$$'s & have groups of stupid sheeple (aka easy marks) embrace him as a flock-member, they start getting involved at a church then proclaim they want to be clergy. The presiding minister is just happy to have someone interested in covering so that minister can take more church-funded personal Vacations (aka... 'Retreats). Once a person states they want to preach the bible, word of god....they are 'golden' in society's eyes. Never do congregation members think to look up the clergy-in-training person's public criminal records. Never do congregations question the clergy's handling monies or working closely with kids and young adults. Never do they question the clergyman's pulling a young 'troubled' female into the rectory to 'counsel' her... 'comfort' her. Never do they question the church paying for the minister's home/condo/car/utilities/gifts becuase that person serves the church. They even stand-by that clergyman when he gets busted as a Rapist or Money Launderer etc...after-all... 'he was a faithful Church Leader who just err'd becuase of a human-temptation'!  Seems like an easy life if you're a fraud, sociopath or have no conscience - 2 hours of doing an 'entertainment session' on sunday, an occassional visit to a sick congregation member, 'empowering the blessed talents' of congregation members so you can take Vacations; occassional funeral or wedding (which you reap LOTS more $$$$$'s for your services!!).

Also, many people become minsters/clergy because they already HAVE a criminal record and are not able to secure a 'normal', benefits-paying job. They might have misdeameaner many company policies or HR bans (i.e. sexual assault, pedophelia, hard drugs, domestic assault, burglary, money-theft etc). In order to make easy $$$'s & have groups of stupid sheeple (aka easy marks) embrace him as a flock-member, they start getting involved at a church then proclaim they want to be clergy. The presiding minister is just happy to have someone interested in covering so that minister can take more church-funded personal Vacations (aka... 'Retreats). Once a person states they want to preach the bible, word of god....they are 'golden' in society's eyes. Never do congregation members think to look up the clergy-in-training person's public criminal records. Never do congregations question the clergy's handling monies or working closely with kids and young adults. Never do they question the clergyman's pulling a young 'troubled' female into the rectory to 'counsel' her... 'comfort' her. Never do they question the church paying for the minister's home/condo/car/utilities/gifts becuase that person serves the church. They even stand-by that clergyman when he gets busted as a Rapist or Money Launderer etc...after-all... 'he was a faithful Church Leader who just err'd becuase of a human-temptation'!  Seems like an easy life if you're a fraud, sociopath or have no conscience - 2 hours of doing an 'entertainment session' on sunday, an occassional visit to a sick congregation member, 'empowering the blessed talents' of congregation members so you can take Vacations; occassional funeral, speech or wedding (which you reap LOTS more $$$$$'s for your services!!).

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