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Permalink Reply by Zengineer on June 27, 2012 at 3:11am

Maher bugs me for some reason, I agree with him sometimes but other times I want to go on his show and stress how strongly I disagree, but Im a secular conservative so I have my bias.

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Permalink Reply by Glen Rosenberg on June 27, 2012 at 12:27am

Loren you asked for a vocal atheist.  I respect Pat Condell. Think he is really sharp and outspoken. Cant penalize the guy for not having his own show. And there are many here on A/N who outshine Maher in terms of understanding the issues. Doesn't mean they could replace him on Real Time, cuz Maher is quick to bring up talking snakes and has the right personality. And new rules is funny. He has good writers.

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Permalink Reply by Zengineer on June 27, 2012 at 3:10am

Most of us would fall back into the idiocy of faith for comfort if put under enough stress and trauma, our limbric system and adrenaline glands are too strong and our prefrontal cortexes too small and too easily overwhelmed.

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Permalink Reply by James M. Martin on June 27, 2012 at 8:00am

I hope you are wrong -- or that I am not part of that "most" of which you speak.  It is one of my greatest fears that I will betray my conscience and "find God" at the last minute.  You know how believers sought to put words into the mouths of Darwin and Einstein.  The latter even had to come out publicly and state emphatically that he was not a believer.  I do not want to fall victim to the old Death Bed Conversion syndrome.

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Permalink Reply by Loren Miller on June 27, 2012 at 8:08am

Nope, nope, NOPE!  My faith was never all that good to begin with, and the "all lecture and no lab" aspect of religion was the deal-breaker for me a long time ago.  It took me a while to finally get shut of all the trappings and side trips and general woo, but that's a done deal for me now.  Going back would be beyond anathema for me, and I suspect for a great number of others here.

Obviously, Leah Libresco is another matter.  She's on her own trip, and she's fully entitled to said trip.  Do NOT expect me to join her anytime soon.

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Permalink Reply by Zengineer on June 27, 2012 at 5:50pm

YOu are already halfway there, claiming that you can never be conned ever means you are halfway to a con man getting you, you must keep your own falliblities and your own irrationality in mind so you can remind yourself when at such a point that it isnt what you think is a divine experience but rather your irrational side taking command.

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Permalink Reply by Loren Miller on June 27, 2012 at 6:17pm

Bud, you don't want to begin to guess about how conscious I am of my own quirks, idiosyncrasies, and irrationalities.  I've had 61+ years to get to know them, plus the discipline of a career in engineering, troubleshooting and customer relationships to cement in my mind what works and what doesn't, what's real and what isn't.

Tell you what: you worry about YOUR OWN IRRATIONALITIES and I'll worry about mine.  Deal?

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Permalink Reply by Glen Rosenberg on June 27, 2012 at 1:55pm

I didn't want to waste my time looking for the episode I mentioned with the bushy haired christian apologist. Did, wasted an hour, cant find it. If any of you know the author's name or the episode please disclose.

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