Loren asked a question the other day, wondering if the real reason for the anti-Obama sentiment was race related.  i'm starting to think that is the most likely cause.  the linked article discusses 2 cases of GTP (formerly GOP) authorities caught forwarding blatantly racist Obama hate emails. 


additionally, an Alaska man is suing to keep Obama off of the Presidential ballot because he is black, and he believes that the 14th Ammendment was ratified improperly or illegally.  (


besides the color of his skin, what has Obama done that is so hateable?  ok, there is the debt issue.  of course, it might have happened no matter who was elected President, but i'll give them that one. 


what else?  not enough drilling?  stopping the Canadian pipeline?  oil prices in general?  taxes? 


i can see not liking the current President, no matter who he is, for all sorts of reasons.  but the immense hate that you get from the anti-Obama crowd is delerious.  they would vote for the Grand Wizard of the KKK before voting for Obama.  actually, the Wizard might beat him in a landslide. 

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i'm struggling a bit right now.  last night we talked about how i couldn't run for public office because i'm an Atheist.  she seemed surprised, so i sent her an email explaining that there are exactly 2 openly Atheist politicians in the US.  her response:


"guess that just shows that the majority of people in this country believe in GOD.
Sorryyou are in the minority....
Love you,



Easy for me to talk.  My parents are dead.  They did not view themselves as racist, and would be shocked if some-one said they were.  They did have views that came from sheltered rural mid-west upbringing, and those views included ideas that we consider racist.  My Dad was offended that I criticized the great American president, also known as dubya.  There was enough else for us to talk about, and our distance was so great, that we avoided controversy and stuck to the weather, and gardening, and cooking, and history, and which neighbor or relative was ill. When  was clear that I had love interest across racial "barriers", they were gracious, but nervous, and cautiously accepting, but not necessarily happy about the situation.  Religion was not in the conversation at all - they were so shocked when I went Unitarian that didn't carry it further to discussing that I thought the Unitarians were too religious.

It sounds as though you have to emotionally divorce yourself from your mother, as so many of us have had to do with family and friends if we want to be healthy. So, when you feel the need for a hug from Mom, give yourself a hug and realize "what is, is." 

Let me guess, she thinks that this country was founded as a Christian nation.

No Joan, I don't see any knight in shining armor, or heroine on the horizon.  We are stuck with nut-cases who hate us, and sell-outs who forgot we really believed them.  I'm off to see the Wizard, the wonderful wizard of Oz!

And I to my garden! Thankfully, the rain and snow have let up for today ... very cold weather predicted. Crazy weather ... maybe it is the weather that makes political candidates so irrational. 

NDAA - just for this Obama is the worst president in the history of the USA.

Obama's constant use of the race card (he even called Bill Clinton racist) for political advantage

There is a lot more. But honestly I am tired of choosing from a selection of bad to horrible.

Also the 'white racists' have a point. Go live in any 'diverse' majority black country and you might just become one of those 'white racists' as well... if you survive long enough to change your mind- not to mention blacks are often more racist than whites (look at what happened in Haiti, Rhodesia and is happening now in South Africa).

Biological differences exist and they are extremely important... this is a fact. PC brainwashing is no different than faith.

I know I am in the serious minority- being an atheist with this unorthodox viewpoint- but I did not leave one irrational faith just to pick up a more popular one called Political Correctness.

i grew up in New Orleans and experienced reverse racism first hand.  i attended public school!  yet i don't hold that against blacks in general.  most of the cultural differences between races are socio-economical.  if i lived in rural Kentucky, i would hold negative points of view on my hillbillie white trash neighbors.  now i live in Philly, and don't think for a second that i wish to spend a nice sunny afternoon walking through North or West Philly. 


all of that is to say that i hold no true bias based on skin color.  i try to look at the man/woman as an individual.  call that PC if you like but it's the fairest way to behave. 


i wouldn't go so far as to call you a racist though.  but i could be wrong. 

"i try to look at the man/woman as an individual." I agree that in 1-on-1 settings this can work - but past experiences always color future ones. Also in a truly libertarian or meritocratic state this approach might work. Currently affirmative-action/anti-racism/diversity = ignoring the facts and racism against whites.

I agree that economics and culture are important - but so are biological differences. I used to live in Croydon- where the riots started a while back in England... blacks were the majority at my school and I was picked on for being white (e.g. in art class they made clay penises and threw them at me). As the rioters were almost homogeneously black, I am of the opinion that both race and economic inequality are to blame.

P.S I am not a supporter of lowest common denominator politics - aka "let's make everyone equally miserable" doctrine

Will Faithless Sophia, I can understand your feelings and position, especially knowing you lived through a terrible time in Croydon. Riots can cause one to take a stand, and for very good reason. 
I taught in a ghetto school in Washington, DC for two years and many mothers and fathers spit on me and called me awful names because I was a white intruder trying to tell them how to live. When Martin Luther King, Jr was assassinated in 1968 a riot broke out while I was teaching. Four of the biggest, blackest men stormed into my classroom, swept me up, put me in my car, put cars in front, back, on both sides and escorted me out of the project until I was safely on my way home in Bathesda. Looking over my shoulder through the monuments I could see flames and smoke billowing up for one and one-half miles of the city. At the end of the school term, every one of my students passed Civil Service tests and they all got jobs (none of their co-horts did). The parents thanked me profusely and my students gave me a wonderful book they wrote about their experiences with me.

Sounds familiar. and accurate. 

For what it's worth, I grew up in a majority white environment, and was mistreated and bullied relentlessly in majority (95%) white schools, by white people.  And I am nominally white.  It wasn't until I was recruited into the military that I experienced being in a small minority as a white person.  What happened to me - even when thrown into the same barracks, and same bunks, in a majority black and second largest group latin, I was never unwelcome, never mistreated, always belonged.  Naturally there were bad eggs, and assholes, of every color, but the eye opener to me was that I was far happier among people who didn't look just like me, than growing up among people who did look like me.  You may never overcome the effects of being bullied in your high school, and you may always generalize that to all people who look like the assholes who tormented you.  All I can say is that I was tormented by white people, and it doesn't mean that I am anti-white today.  On the other hand, since my military experience, I've never been exclusive in my personal, social, professional, sexual, or marriage life with respect to race, and my life has been indescribably richer in experience for it.  I am not naive, far from inexperienced, and not politically correct, but when it comes to race, my personal experience is that there is no difference in worthiness, diligence, openness, kindness, or love, hate or cruelty, based on race.  Even today, there have been times when I felt more comfortable as the only person who looked like me, than when visiting my small home town where it is still mostly white. That's from someone who has lived in small towns, college towns, inner city Chicago, Louisiana, Texas, and a few other places, Midwest, Northeast and Northwest, and went from working class, to scholar, to professional.


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