Yes, fundies insinuating themselves into A|N are nothing new. They’re usually on missions to save our corrupt souls, are quickly detected and booted out the door. But the strange case of Antonett Ewan
is markedly different and worthy of all of our attention. We’re still not sure of her motivations or what she was actually after, but we have some sound speculations. More like her may follow, and caution should be exercised. I have notified Brother Richard of Antonett, but have asked that no action be taken yet. When it is, I would strongly recommend discussions initiated by her be preserved for future reference.
And I would also urge all of you to think carefully next time you run into an idiot or a "helpful" stranger in any forum - there may be more to them than you think.
The Nitty Gritty
Antonett, seems to have arrived on the scene on the 8th of December. She was welcomed in the usual cordial manner. No picture and a profile that has been modified several times since then to reflect upon which way she modified her story, and no group memberships.
Immediately, she started the thread “Organized Hate!
”, which deserves a thorough reading from start to finish to get a gist of the matter at hand, and the thread I really would like to see preserved. She followed the next day with “Religiously Uneducated
”. Though of lesser interest, and possibly even dumber, it is also worth reading.
The opening posts are worth quoting verbatim –
“Organized Hate!” -
What is your response to those who think websites like these only serve the purpose to organize hate?
Do you think that this site might propogate another 'people of hate' if ideas about religion/religious people are not controlled (or thought through, if ideas are uneducated)? That there might be another 'crusade' where either the relgious or atheists are killed by the other?
This is for Research purposes....
“Religiously Uneducated” –
Atheists...as we know, Christians and Muslims alike have caused alot of pain and suffering throughout history...yet non of their dogmas actually 'back-up' hate and killing...though I am not sure about the Quaran. Do you think that those who kill in the name of religion...are just not educated about it?
Everyone I’ve spoken to had the same gut feeling that there was something wrong with this picture, but… Maybe it’s just a kid ? Maybe a young adult with learning difficulties ? Maybe some young person that was raised in a cloistered religious madhouse ? Could be any, and maybe they were taking their first baby steps back to reality. We gave her the benefit of the doubt and tried to be relatively nice.
I and others started monitoring her posts, particularly the Hate thread, and the stupidity and surrealism only grew. This was no retard, no stupid kid locked in a crazy x-tians basement – this was a real fundie. The dead giveaway, apart from sheer dumbness, is illiteracy. 99.9% of fundies couldn’t write a coherent paragraph to save their lives – it was evident here in spades.
We decided to take no action yet – we wanted to see what the point was. No soul saving was evident, there was some other agenda here. And it was pretty obvious – Antonett is apparently of the sincere belief that atheists are genocidal maniacs bent on exterminating x-tians. This was her “research” project. She was bending over backwards to get someone in the thread to explode into a hate speech tirade she could take away with her as “proof”.
Extracting the truth
Kudos to Dawn K.
, funk Q
, for carrying on as though nothing was amiss, and gently and patiently painting her into a corner to try and get her to tell us precisely what her “research” was. Above all else, they used nothing that could be construed as a threat or “hate speech”. She was hopping around like a frog on a hot plate, but no explanation was forthcoming. It was going nowhere and this piece of gibberish got me to open up –
Antonett Ewan: Well for one, atheists refer to Christians as deluded, unintelligent, they litteraly hate everything that a Christian is for...so what's the difference.
I responded –
Spit it out - you're a deep cover fundie trying to expose us for the baby eating satanists that you think we are.
Your questions could be answered by studying our archives - you refuse to do so. Instead you are fishing for comments you can use as soundbites in propaganda.
Please convince me I am wrong.
Then another surprise twist (and profile modification) – Antonett was suddenly confessing to being recently deconverted. The gibberish continued.
Tracing the culprit
My initial knee-jerk was that it was a resurrection of this creep who'd just been shown the door –
I was proved wrong. Kudos Andrew
from Canada for his sleuthing. He found –
Full name, address and phone number. Apparently she’s a cat freak to boot.
I was wondering if this was mere coincidence and we had the wrong person. I browsed some more. The "view all ads by user" link gave this –
OK, Google AntiePantie, first hit –
Look to the right of Antie Pantie in the user box - IM antonettewan
Now look down to the question and answer section. Case closed.
Andrew also told me Antonett plays flute in the Toronto Youth Wind Orchestra –
You’ll find her under flute in the 2008-2009 Symphonic Winds section.
We also know she performed in the dance/theatre piece “Waiting”, by The Company at Factory Mainspace, Mon. Aug 11 6:30pm, Sat. Aug 16 6:30pm, Sun. Aug 17 12:30pm
We also know which college she goes to, but we won’t mention it here.
Amazing what you can find out in less than an hours searching innit ?
Coup de Grace
After all these fun and games I posted the following to the Hate thread –
As has been carefully explained to you we are not a part of the "many of us say hateful things" herd. Let me repeat what I said earlier -
And if you take anything away with you from here, make a careful note of our patience and tolerance. We all had our doubts from your first post, but you being the guest, we gave you the benefit of the doubt.
You will not find such patience or tolerance on any x-tian board, and if you want to see true bloodlust and hatred, check christian responses on secular message boards when topics they disagree with are discussed. Let alone the fact that you could fill several garbage trucks with anonymous death threats sent by good christians each year to secularists. If you could find just one of these threats from a genuine athiest to a xtian, I would be surprised.
There has not been a peep from Antonett since I addressed her out of the blue by her yahoo nick. Perhaps I jumped the gun ? We could have toyed some more. But I wanted to make her jump. This will probably make her jump higher.
So, Antonett, will you finally tell us why you are here, what your “research” is, and what it is that you actually want from us ? Unfortunately, we’re not the satanic, baby eating, genocidal, jack-booted thugs that you expected. But we do take great exception to those that think they can play games with us. Please tell us, or we’ll just keep on digging.
Let’s pretend we’re a bunch of rabid pro-lifers and Antonett was a pro-choice infiltrator. What do you think they would do with the information we gathered ?
Fortunately, we are godless. We value reason and tolerance. We see revenge as a juvenile act that is at its most juvenile in the Abrahamic holy books. As the godless, we will do nothing.
Lucky for you hey Antonett.
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