i haven't posted on this site in a very long time but as the new year starts i fell the need to find out if I'm alone in this feeling .... and try to do something to change it.
I live in the San Francisco Bay area. I use to go to a couple of different atheist meet-up groups, but i stopped because some of the bay area "leaders" of these meet up groups were off putting and made it seem that if you wanted to participate or engage in a discussion within"their group" you had to have at least a Bachelors degree (and/or working on a masters) in some hard science. it was very segregated and condescending. my question is, have others dealt with the same feeling? how deal with it?
thanks for your time.
Well it did kind of give me a double take......
Actually if you reread it, I didn't say you weren't smart, I said that you didn't feel as smart as. You said there were discussions on here that are beyond your comprehension. Some are beyond mine too. I did misspeak, but you should know me on here enough to know that I don't hurt friends feelings on-purpose. Sorry.
I did re-read, which is why I got over it quickly.
Everyone has their own journey through life. I know people who are not intelligent and not thinkers, but had all of the advantages and privileges, and sometimes some less than honorable ways, and have letters after their names and successful careers and influence, to boot. I know people who do not have those letters, and I hang on every word they say or write, because of their insight and wisdom.
My Dad did not go to college and he was one of the smartest people I've known. His Dad didn't get to high school, and he was incredibly smart. My Mom had a different kind of intelligence, but had more skill than she ever knew, and was a wonderful sweet loving woman. I miss them all, even now.
No one here should be shy about their insights and experiences. You are all amazing people with so much to say.
That was nice to read Daniel, thanks!
I'm glad you had such wonderful parents. You're right to treasure them!
Sean, the groups whose meetings you had the misfortune of attending sound like associations created by and for intellectual poseurs and snobs who happen to be atheists. I think you should be relieved that you didn't feel comfortable there.
My guess is there are other people who feel the same as you do and dropped the meetup because of the attitude of the leaders. Have you thought about starting your own meetup group? Call it something like the Non-Brainiacs or the Average American Atheists to suggest that the IQ level doesn't have to be over 150, then set out some goals of how you'd like the meetups to be handled and make that into a mission statement.
I suppose more than a few people here have heard about street smarts vs book smarts. Both have their value by themselves, and certainly an integration of the two make for a potentially respectable basis for understanding. Still, however someone arrives at the conclusion that gods are illusory, that conclusion and the person who worked to produce it are worthy of recognition.
I've used this quote more than once (like so many I'm fond of referring to), but that doesn't change its applicability:
You all got on this boat for different reasons, but you all come to the same place.
-- Capt. Malcolm Reynolds
And so did we all, different reasons, different histories, different avenues of thought ... but all arriving at the same place.
Perfect quote Loren! Thanks for sharing it!~ Mindy
Mindy, it might be your browser. Some don't let me reply and when I change to another browser it does. For me, Firefox, doesn't let me reply, or embed images. Chrome usually does. Then again I might be full of you-know-what.