Some of you may not care, it bothers me quite a bit because I don't feel that an employer should be picking side of religion. There have been discussions on here about Hobby Lobby, and you may have heard about Chick-fil-a giving money to anti-gay groups, CNN just posted an article the lists 6 others.


1. Tyson Foods

2. Hobby Lobby

3. ServiceMaster (Terminex, American Home Shield)

4. Herman Miller

5. Interstate Batteries

6. In-N-Out Burger

7. Walmart (like I needed another reason to despise Walmart)


Does this influence your decision to do business with any of these companies?


I personally avoid Hobby Lobby because of their religious ads they post in newspapers, I avoid Walmart because of their poor working conditions and underage manufacturing, and Chick-fil-a for the anti-equality stance. I'm not sure about the others, but it won't help.

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Music is a little bit different (I listen to Matisyahu). I feel that religion should have no place in business. I don't think that any employee should have to choose their religion or their job, or feel like they aren't supported because they aren't of that religion.

Business doesn't have the same rights as individuals. As a president of a company you can believe what you would like, as a company you have responsibility to conduct as merely a business. I think, as a person trying to erase religion from our society, that business has no right pushing religion. I think you may be a passive atheist. see this

I'm not sure that it's that I'm a "passive" atheist, it's that I hold liberty at a higher regard than my personal beliefs. I think a private business and person has every right to conduct business under whatever pretense they choose. I mean, church is essentially a business after all. In fact, the idea of forcing an end to religion bothers me because it creates a scenario of oppression. I think the ABSOLUTE key to atheism is that people are offered the information and are allowed to come to atheism on their own terms. If not, we end up being just as tyrannical and hateful as the religions of old.
BUT, let's not forget that you and I are on the same side. My approach is just more laborious. Speaking as one who's caught more flies with honey, it's just the way I work =)
I see where you are coming from, I just have to disagree with you.  Your argument sounds a lot like the one given by Rand Paul recently regarding the Civil Rights act.  That any business has the freedom to do as they wish, even discriminate.  That a business should legally be able to say "Whites only" or "blacks only" for that matter.  A small business may have a bit more leeway in having a more "christian-oriented" business,  but a large publicly traded company, well....It just seems wrong to me.
I absolutely agree with him, even if it's publicly traded.  The point is that if we disagree with how someone does business, we can simply avoid the company.  We can forgo buying their stocks.  We can spread the word, like our friend has done here.  I think that the best thing you can do in this country is let the crazies be crazy so we all know who they are and not create legislation that forces them into the closet.  I'd rather know who's a bigot than force them to keep it out of the way they operate.  And the truth is that most of these corporations are not actually supporting these bigoted, intolerant groups but their CEO's are.  No matter how much we dislike it, we have NO right to tell people what to think, just as they don't.  I mean the shoe could easily be on the other foot with xtians hating on atheist owned companies.
People do have the right to believe what they want and run a company. However, even you said we have no right to tell people what to think which is exactly what these companies are doing with their employees.
Sure, but you have the right to not work there.
True, but i guess thats hard to come to terms with when there isn't a huge job market out there.  But, i guess i want to point out, that I dont dislike them bc they are christian, but because of some of the practices they have.  I mean, I dislike certain companies for reasons having nothing to do with religion, mainly because they are corrupt in other ways.  My beef as an atheist is that a lot of those companies mentioned above are evangelicalizing.
I completely hear you on that. I think we're all on the same page in general. We seem to agree on our dislike of companies who support things like xtian bigot groups (i.e. the ones that violate gay rights) and I think it's important to get the word out about those sorts of things. We may have differing opinions about the minutiae but talks like this get us in the right direction.
somewhere on television i once saw a discussion about a company that hired a clergyman to go around and ask employees about their "spiritual well being." Wouldnt that be an obnoxious situation?
Well of course that would be obnoxious. But I've worked for a million religious people without incident. I guess I'm just not bothered by their religion. And like I said before, it's a free market, you're welcome to wave your religious views (or non-religious, as it were) with only the threat of the general public liking or disliking the way you operate. I guess the thing about the first amendment is that while you and I have our opportunity to be free from religion and have nothing limiting when and where we make that known, the other shoe is that you have to allow people in their own practice to do as they wish. I don't like the idea of telling businesses what they can and can't stand for. I mean, what if you published bibles? Would it be wrong to say your company was religious?


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