How are things?
My example of using humans for experiments is based on Sassans logic. And that is, humans are just animals anyway. If that is the case what is the difference between using humans for experiments and using animals for experiments.
Alexa, do you think we are just animals? We are animals, yes, but not just any ordinary animal. We have amazing brains, our brains allow us to do things that no other animal can do. We have an amazing world of science and technology, that science and technology makes us more advanced than any other species on the planet. These other species have no interest in our science nor our technology, so can you explain to me why animals should have to suffer for something they have no interest in?
"can you explain to me why animals should have to suffer for something they have no interest in?"
Simply said, because we as humans assign importance to animals and humans based upon our own perception of the world and our own subjective interpretations.
We cause suffering and hurt because it makes us feel better or live our lives better. Of course this is all subjective, so where you draw the line might be different from the next person.
I can only agree with you.
We are animals - but we are higher ordered animals. Human lives are more worthy than animal lives. The priority for human life is always precedent to animal life.
Again - I consider myself an animal rights advocate. I am simply not an extremist and I understand the value to scientific testing and the progress of science and humanity.
"We are animals"
Yes, we are just monkeys with shoes.
"... we are higher ordered animals. Human lives are more worthy than animal lives."
I'm not saying you're incorrect, but what makes humans special? You are making a dichotomy between "higher ordered" animals and "lesser"(?) animals, what is this distinction based upon?
Is it the ability to suffer, the ability to be sentient?
I normally never eat animal products. But when i visit family or friends, I eat what ever they give me. If I were to go vegan 100% of the time, I would still have a problem with getting B12. Either I could eat termites like other apes or eat beef liver(which is really cheap), or Blue cheese and other cheeses. Or I could just eat road-kill.
I tend to agree with Shashankas point of view.
In the real world I try and apply utilitarianism, or my version of it, to everything, even inanimate objects.
Maybe when I see animals get killed it saddens me. And of course this. Not to sure which saddens me more.
Sometimes i wonder if there are 2 different species of human. Those that feel nothing upon witnessing the killing of an animal/human and those that feel there is something wrong upon witnessing the killing of an animal/human.
Maybe there are varying degrees of humanity between these two extremes. I doubt it though. :)hehe
I USED to be a vegan, but have been a vegetarian since age 16 (41 now). I had the same dilemma, but the answer seemed/seems easy to me. If I keep myself in the best possible health, then I won't be contributing to animal testing. I try not to buy products tested on animals and hve written (long ago) to those companies (like Revlon) who do animal testing. I USED to vacinate my pets, but no longer do because I know the vaccine companies have test animals...other cats and dogs! I try to teach others about health when I can. I am sick to my stoamch at those who injure themselves (drinking,smoking, overeating, speeding..) because they not only hurt themselves, thier family, and society, but also they lead to more animal testing. If you lead an unhealthy lifestyle, maybe you deserve to die (and not the animals)!
A Buddist, I think, made a good point... a flea or mosquito or fly eats us. We are part of a food chain. Is the fly or tick beter than us? Millions of bacteria live off of us (they ARE a life form). We would DIE without certan bacteria to help us digest our food...they live IN our digestive tract and it is a symbiotic relationship.