"I wish the RCC would reform itself along with the main branch of the LDS church, the SDA's and the JW's ( they desperately need reform , none of the eighty something splinter groups can be called liberal in all actuality). …"
 |
The World's Largest Coalition of Nontheists and Nontheist Communities!
Transubstantiation: Is this not ritualistic cannibalism?
With magic words, a sip of wine and a nibble of cracker, Catholics believe that they are consuming the blood and flesh of their Zombie Boy, but is that not just ritualistic cannibalism? I will point out that I feel that I'm giving them the benefit of the don't think by saying "Ritualistic", as the reality of the literal changing of some wine and a cracker into the real flesh and blood of some dead guy is soooo absurd. If they were really changing. with magic words, the cracker and wine into Zombie Boy's flesh and blood, they would be practising cannibals, would they not?
So, what ya think?
So, what ya think?
Tags: Catholicism, religion, transubstantiation
Replies to This Discussion
-
Permalink Reply by James on -
Yes, they would be. Most churches, such as the Episcopalians, Methodists, Presbyterians, Lutherans, the Eastern Orthodox Church and so forth -- just about any mainstream denomination -- accept a more refined view, that is, that Jesus is spiritually present in some real way. Catholics still cling to their literal view of it, so I don't know how they convince themselves it isn't cannibalism....I wonder how many Catholics truly believe there is a real change?
James
-
Permalink Reply by Mac Rex on -
Ya ever try pointing out to a Catholic that it's ritualistic cannibalism? If you do, I would advise you to duck very quickly, 'couse there's a punch coming real quick! Their denial of the reality of their practise is just as quick. But then again, honesty has never been the Catholic's style...
-
Permalink Reply by Mac Rex on
-
I didn't say it was cannibalism. I said RITUALISTIC cannibalism. In the first, people actually consume the dead, usually as a form of honouring their dead relative/friend. With the latter, it is the belief that they are consuming the real body of the deceased, even though they are not, by transforming symbolic food items with magic words, etc., into the flesh and blood of the dead.
Ya, kinda sick, to say the least...
-
Permalink Reply by Wolf Martinus on -
It's just a cracker. Attaching any more (real / ritualistic / whatever) meaning to the act of eating something that is best used to keep macaroons from sticking to the baking tray is only encuraging them and playing their game. I refuse to do that. It's just a cracker. Full Stop.
-
Permalink Reply by Undo on -
A lot/most of them believe that it is really the body of christ. Look at the whole incident with the student stealing the eucharist. Cannibalism indeed.
-
Permalink Reply by Paul on -
I have to ask:
Does the "body, blood, soul, and divinity" of Christ contain fiber?
I mean if it does then nature must take it's course and it must reach the large intestine and...
You see where I'm going here.
-
Permalink Reply by James on
-
On second thought, even if it was Christ's body and blood, it certainly wouldn't be like any real human body -- it appears and tastes like bread and wine. So maybe it wouldn't be quite cannibalism.
But yeah, it's just a cracker and wine. No change is apparent.
James
-
Permalink Reply by James on
-
Paul, they saw that one coming. As soon as the bread and wine no longer *appear* to exist (remember, they believe it has become Christ), it is no longer the body and blood of Jesus.
James
-
Permalink Reply by Undo on
-
A lot of this crap reminds me of pagan rituals. Oh wait, that's because most of it came from early religions like paganism. Read Leviticus in the OT - lots of instructions for sacraficing animals. Funny stuff.
-
Permalink Reply by Mac Rex on
-
I don't think you have to read very far into the old testament before you find sacrificial instruction, and I mean the Cain and Able story. But if you check who would have been the Hebrew Tribes neighbours, like the Hittites, you notice that the Jews were nomadic herders, and their neighbours were primarily agriculturalists. So simply put, the Cain and Able story was one of conflict between farmers and herders, and herders would probably had their animals trampling the farmer's crops, pissing off the farmer, and resulting in their retaliation against the herder.
The god of the Jews loved their blood sacrifices, and there is some evidence of the Hebrews practising cannibalism and human sacrifice to their god. It's always bugged me how the bible instructs how to sacrifice lambs, and referring to the followers of their god as "Lambs of God". Kinda makes you wounder...
CONNECT WITH ATHEIST NEXUS
Latest Activity
- Top News
- Everything
Debra Stevenson replied to matthew greenberg's discussion Pope Francis says even Atheists go to Heaven
Tony Carroll commented on Steph S.'s group Birding, Birders and all things Birds"
Hawk Headed Parrott"
Jessica Berman commented on Ruth Anthony-Gardner's group Hang With Friends"I'm sorry I haven't posted at all; my mother was treated for ovarian cancer this past year, but I follow the discussions. Joan I'm glad treatment is going well. The ChemoBrain is a strange thing. The whole process was a whirlwind for…"
Richard C Brown commented on Hessenroots's group Useless Without Coffee"The coffee is good.My body says sleep.Huh."
Joan Denoo commented on Ruth Anthony-Gardner's group Hang With Friends"11:00 PM had my first bout of nausea; Rx took care of it. I feel wonderful. Absolutely no pain, I can't finish a sentence or remember words so Cary, Laura and Laurie did their best to understand what I am trying to convey. I usually get enough…"
John Hutcheson posted a blog postAre the media too giddy over the Pope?
With all the media attention the on the Pope, important stories are being missed, human rights violations, Monsanto protection act, Russia march to blasphemy laws, and of the big story this week did Harry Potter vanquish dementors?See More
Ian Mason commented on Ruth Anthony-Gardner's group Hang With Friends"The medical profession seems to have improved in some areas at least. Personally I think some of that is due to the higher level of education of society as a whole. We know too much to put up with bad treatment now. I saw a documentary last year…"
© 2013 Atheist Nexus. All rights reserved. Admin: Richard Haynes.
